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New Re: I mostly agree

WebTV needs to go on the garbage heap ;)

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There's a new incarnation of that idea being pushed at work, we had to basically set up completely segregated versions of our sites on subdomains with their own templating and whatnot to deal with it and send the users over there, because there's no way to detect it (thanks to the way it works, to a server it's indistinguishable from normal IE 6).

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New Couldn't you use your WAP page?
I'm assuming anyone who cares about early adopters is writing pages for people surfing on their cell phones. I would guess the pages you server up to them would also work (sorta) on WebTV, wouldn't they?
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New Re: Couldn't you use your WAP page?

Not really; the TV stuff, because of the interface it uses, had a different set of requirements for visual presentation. Which, fortunately, is really easy to do; one of my co-workers [link|http://www.postneo.com/2006/07/26/acknowledging-the-mobile-web-with-django|wrote up how we handle this sort of thing] for our mobile sites.

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Edit: I should probably also take this moment to pimp Matt's talk from PyCon on [link|http://postneo.com/talks/pycon2006/|mobile development with Python].

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Expand Edited by ubernostrum Nov. 27, 2006, 12:32:12 AM EST
New Re: I mostly agree
WebTV needs to go on the garbage heap ;)


OK, there we completely agree. However, I believe there is a 'webtv' in the user agent string if you look for it.

Failing that, you can do a screen size check in js and redirect them.




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New Re: I mostly agree

Unfortunately, it's not actually WebTV, it's a WebTV-alike. I'll go poke at logs sometime this week, but I seem to recall that one of its major annoyances was not advertising itself in its UA string, and instead trying to be as much like IE6 as possible.

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     Now using IceWeasel, nice. - (folkert) - (27)
         Firefox in drag - (tuberculosis) - (26)
             Firefox OUT OF DRAG. - (folkert) - (25)
                 DFSG - (tuberculosis) - (24)
                     It works exactly like Firefox... - (folkert) - (1)
                         They all say that - (tuberculosis)
                     Re: DFSG - (ubernostrum) - (21)
                         User agent sniffing - (tuberculosis) - (19)
                             Re: User agent sniffing - (ubernostrum) - (18)
                                 Whatever - (tuberculosis) - (17)
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                                             Re: Whatever - (ubernostrum) - (8)
                                                 Uh yeah - so how do I compensate for it in the page? - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                                                     Re: Uh yeah - so how do I compensate for it in the page? - (ubernostrum) - (6)
                                                         I mostly agree - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                                             Re: I mostly agree - (ubernostrum) - (4)
                                                                 Couldn't you use your WAP page? - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                     Re: Couldn't you use your WAP page? - (ubernostrum)
                                                                 Re: I mostly agree - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                     Re: I mostly agree - (ubernostrum)
                                     On a more serious note, though - (ubernostrum) - (5)
                                         I think Todd's made his argument poorly. - (static)
                                         The sniffing happens on the server - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                             Re: The sniffing happens on the server - (ubernostrum) - (2)
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