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New Back to the Philippines for fish.
Today I got a couple of Sculpin (cheap) and a couple of Strawberry Grouper (very expensive) along with a pile of squid (large and small).

[image|http://www.clovegarden.com/ingred/img/sf_sculp04d.jpg||||] [image|http://www.clovegarden.com/ingred/img/sf_groupst04d.jpg||||]

To give an idea of the scale of business at these Phillipine fishmarkets (remember, there's two of them within 3 blocks of each other) I counted in one of them: one guy weighing, one guy frying, and 8 guys on the scale and clean line working as fast as they could go.

The weigh station is automated and prints a barcode sticker with name, price/#, weight and total price, with a tear off claim tag that's given to the purchaser. The fish go in a tray at one end of the scale and clean line and the purchaser waits for the tag number to be called at the other end.

Of course myself and many of the Philippinos bypass the line by calling "no cut no clean" at the weigh station. We get handed the bagged and tagged fish and head for checkout.

The big seller is Talapia - I've seen some people take a couple dozen at a time. Myself, I generally buy Talapia as frozen fillets - that and Tra are my "convenience fish"

For those that want it, scale and clean is free. Deep fry is also free, operating from one hour after opening to one hour before closing. The same rules apply at the Southeast Asian fish markets.

The Korean markets have only a few varieties of fish (no Tilapia), no fry service and prices are higher, but scale and clean is still free.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Aug. 26, 2006, 09:50:30 PM EDT
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Aug. 26, 2006, 09:58:29 PM EDT
New The strawberry grouper is a nice looking fish
and looks like good eating :)
Smile,
Amy

[link|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman|Pics of the Family]
New I'm sure it's good eating - and it'd better be . . .
. . at the price. Most expensive fish I've bought yet at $6.69/#. Even Monkfish tails aren't that high, and they're almost all edible.

[Ooops, correction - found the sticker, they didn't charge me that much, only $5.59/# - about the same as Red Snapper and Monkfish].

Of course with so many cookbook recipes call for grouper and grouper looking so much like a "regular fish", practically any grouper is bound to be expensive.

Same as with Red Snapper. Not only is Red Snapper expensive but a lot of other fish that aren't even snappers are sold labled "Red Snapper".

On the other hand, from past experience, I'm betting the Sculpin is the more delectable fish - we'll see.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Aug. 27, 2006, 01:33:08 AM EDT
New Yes, yes, confirmed! Not a Sculpin at all . . .
. . it's the venomous California Scorpionfish Scorpaena guttata. I knew that bastard looked familiar!

About 35 years ago a then co-worker (currently an important client) went out fishing on a boat owned by another co-worker. He promised to bring me some fish at the end of the day.

Indeed, they did catch fish and he came by and opened up his trunk. There were a number of sand bass - and two small ugly things with sharp spines sticking out all over.

He gave me a song and dance about how he had a family and all and needed the "good fish" for his family and he was really sorry about sticking me with these ugly things but he really needed the good fish for his family.

I nodded understandingly and allowed him to hand over to me what I already knew was the most delectable fish found off the Pacific coast of North America.

I cut fillets into chunks, heated up a fondue pot of light olive oil, skewered the pieces and - well, I was going to only eat the small one but I just couldn't help myself and I had soon eaten all - while giving thanks for the ignorance of others.

No, I never told him, but I did tell the story to his son a couple of months ago.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Lesson learned: never judge a fish by its beauty.
Smile,
Amy

[link|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman|Pics of the Family]
New Sayeth the LRPD: I don't eat what I dissect.
Scale and clean, por favor! :)
Alex

When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
New With all due respect to Ms. Bio . . .
. . I do not intend to disect them. I intend to fillet them, and I shall indeed eat them.
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New Bon App\ufffdtit
Expand Edited by bionerd Aug. 27, 2006, 11:44:39 AM EDT
New reminds me of a story I was reading today
Andrew's new girlfriend: whats for dinner?
A:fish
again? Gawd I am dying for a big thick juicy hamburger!
I thought you were a vegetarian?
thats my point
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New That's a little fishier than here
No big Phillipine fishmarket anywhere in the SFBA that I know of. The local Asian supermarkets (Chinese, Vietnamese orientation with some Philippino, Korean, and Japanese stuff) do good business in fish, but typically only have 2-3 guys, 4 max, working in the fish department. There's no assembly line, but scaling, gutting, and frying are free.

The closest big Korean market is in Sunnyvale - and there are many good ones in SF - but I haven't gotten down there yet. The local one is pretty small.

--Tony
New And we have a winner!
Both.

No doubt about it - the Strawberry Grouper is a fish that will satisfy the most demanding chef. Delicate flavor, holds together in cooking but flakes apart effortlessly on the plate. Compatible with the most delicate and sophisticated sauces.

No doubt about it - the California Scorpionfish is a fish connoisseur's fish. A touch firmer than the Grouper with flavor a shade more assertive.

With either of these fish don't even think about an assertive sauce - you'd just be wasting your money - that's what talapia and catfish are for (and I imply no slight of either).

Testing Method
  1. Fillet fish.
  2. Prepare [link|http://www.clovegarden.com/recipes/gmf_fishpoach1.html|Court Bouillon #3], strain and reheat.
  3. Poach fish at below a simmer for 4 to 5 minutes.
  4. Eat first 1/3 of fillet with nothing but a light sprinkling of sea salt.
  5. Finish remaining 2/3 with a very small amount of [link|http://www.clovegarden.com/recipes/gjd_lemonbutter1.html|Lemon Butter Sauce].
  6. Check against calibration standard (Pompano).
  7. All of above accompanied by small sips of a dry flinty white wine.
On the other end of the scale there's Mackerel - and I'm a real mackerel fan. Indonesian stews or just dusted and fried for "robust" Pacific (Japanese) Mackerel. New England stuffing and bake for Atlantic mackersl (the most saught after mackerel in Japan - mostly shipped from Norway). Just about anything for Pacific Sierra, the most sophisticated of all mackerels (found only from Los Angeles south to a little south of Lima Peru). I have a pound curing into [link|http://www.clovegarden.com/recipes/xaf_ceviche1.html|Ceviche] in the fridge as I write this. Yummmmm!
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Aug. 28, 2006, 03:32:56 AM EDT
New pickled makerel is very good and hard to find here in ATL
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
     Back to the Philippines for fish. - (Andrew Grygus) - (11)
         The strawberry grouper is a nice looking fish - (imqwerky) - (3)
             I'm sure it's good eating - and it'd better be . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Yes, yes, confirmed! Not a Sculpin at all . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                     Lesson learned: never judge a fish by its beauty. -NT - (imqwerky)
         Sayeth the LRPD: I don't eat what I dissect. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
             With all due respect to Ms. Bio . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 Bon App\ufffdtit -NT - (bionerd)
         reminds me of a story I was reading today - (boxley)
         That's a little fishier than here - (tonytib)
         And we have a winner! - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
             pickled makerel is very good and hard to find here in ATL -NT - (boxley)

So, what we gonna do tonight, Bwain?
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