Post #261,673
7/14/06 2:44:45 AM
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Has anyone set up dual boot Ubuntu/xp?
any gotcha's to watch out for? Tips to live by?
XP is already on the machine.
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Post #261,675
7/14/06 2:57:55 AM
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yup
I have a 160g disk with 100g xp and 60g ubuntu partitions. I used [link|http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html|boot-it ng] to partition the disk prior to installing ubuntu - though i think it has its own partition resizer now.
I set it up 1.5 years ago, so ahve gone through 2 major updates of ubuntu and many xp shenanigans without issue. The only gripe i've had is manually cleaning up grub after kernel upgrades and the fact that it assumes ubuntu should be the default OS to start. All tweakable, of course - i just think it should ask ;) No operational issues with either OS whatsoever.
hth.
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Post #261,676
7/14/06 7:19:44 AM
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Yup - Gateway Laptop.
Smooth as silk. No problems with my setup at least.
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Post #261,677
7/14/06 8:19:29 AM
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Install Windows First
And you'll be golden.
Peter
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Post #261,731
7/14/06 1:52:09 PM
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What he said.
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Post #261,837
7/15/06 12:18:57 PM
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Is the T40. XP preinstalled.
Posting from LiveCD currently and testing the hardward to make sure its finding everything and things are working well, which seems to be the case. So getting ready to pull the trigger soon.
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Post #261,846
7/15/06 9:14:52 PM
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Resized the Windows Partition...
Not quite sure what you have to do it, but I believe there is an Ubuntu howto someplace on the Ubuntu Forums/site. But if you do no longer does grub have to have the booting info in the first 1G of the disk.
Lotsa good howtos for Linux in General and on howto resize the partition of Windows.
BTW, Posting this from my laptop right now. Schweet work, thanks again Scott.
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Post #261,848
7/15/06 9:49:52 PM
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well it horked the system.
I now have a t40 with a corrupted hd and apparently a screwed up rescue image.
more later. a bit disgusted at the moment. Don't know what was lost. Nothing overly critical...some financial stuff (bill pay confirmations) and some other minor stuff.
Most info had been moved to another machine.
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Post #261,849
7/15/06 9:52:30 PM
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That SuXx0rZ!
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Post #261,850
7/15/06 10:09:44 PM
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Aye.
Likely will need to deal with Lenovo and get an iso of the rescue to get XP and all the specific drivers on. We'll see
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Post #261,851
7/15/06 10:24:50 PM
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They should send them to you for free.
When I bought my refurbished T41 from IBM, one of the first things I did was call IBM and request the recovery CDs. They sent them out chop-chop. I would assume Lenovo would do the same.
Drop me a line if they don't and we'll see what we can work out. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
(Who is sorry you've had trouble with this. Software's still too temperamental.)
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Post #261,852
7/15/06 10:50:25 PM
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Not free
45 plus shipping. They would send an RMA and reimage for free if I send them the machine. No interest in that.
Ordered.
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Post #261,856
7/16/06 1:59:22 AM
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Warning to T class laptop users
There is a setting in the bios setup utility that covers access to the HD space allocated to system restore. There are 3 settings. Off, Normal and Secure. Default setting is to "Normal". However, this setting allows a partition program such as that supplied with Ubuntu to "see" the hidden partition and also to write to it. 2 issues. One, trying to partition the system with the program will fail (it sets the parameters incorrectly I suppose) and 2 it will write the bootloader to an inaccessable portion of the drive (so even a full install will fail with a Grub Error 18).
Changing this default setting to "Secure" at least fixes the Grub issue...I have to wait for the rescue disks to determine if that setting will fix what horked this lapper in the first place.
Anyway, this is posted from Ubuntu with built in wireless on a t40.
I'm not going to do too much to the system till the restore disks come and I can get XP back and go back to trying to make this a dual boot lapper.
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Post #261,858
7/16/06 2:11:45 AM
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Re: Warning to T class laptop users
I'd be highly inclined to delete all partitions on the disk and start over with an installation of vanilla XP, then Ubuntu. Restore discs, feh!
Given that the partitioner is basically GNU parted, these horrors you've seen will happen with any !Windows operating system.
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Post #261,859
7/16/06 2:35:02 AM
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Has all the necessary drivers and such
will save significant time when I rebuild.
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Post #261,865
7/16/06 10:26:10 AM
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Won't Winders Update grab all the latest versions?
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Post #261,871
7/16/06 12:03:11 PM
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Ar.
And those it doesn't can be downloaded, I wot.
Peter
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Post #261,875
7/16/06 1:57:15 PM
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Thats the bit.
Sure I can load vanilla xp, then update to get some drivers, then surf over to IBM and download and install (one at a time) the dozen or so utilities and TP specific drivers that are needed, or I can get the disks from IBM that take the machine back to original condition and run windows update once.
Speed to fix will be considerably shorter the second way...and that is important to me.
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Post #261,876
7/16/06 2:09:57 PM
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I don't argue with the benefits of the CDs, but...
IBM had something called ThinkVantage that allowed rapid [link|http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/think/thinkvantagetech/system_update.html|system updates]. It's not like the OS/2 days where you had to download drivers and updates individually. Lenovo seems to have continued that program.
So, yes, having the CDs with baseline drivers, etc., will be handy. But if you're in a hurry, you can probably get up and running quicker using a vanilla XP disk and using Windows Update and Lenovo's System Update (above).
Good luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #261,878
7/16/06 3:34:43 PM
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Sure thing.
Might make resale value a bit better though, having the disks. But I don't anticipate that as a need at the moment.
Nor, as I play with this more and more, do I see a time where I will spend significant time in the XP environment. Haven't tested everything (cd burning, kvm setup)..but this is the first machine that I've had gnome on that didn't make me want to punch the screen because of memory issues and general hogginess.
Still going to install xfce because I simply like it better.
Have a new battery on order and looking on ebay for a slim dock extra to make this a 10-12 hour machine on batteries and I think I may be loving life.
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Post #261,879
7/16/06 3:46:13 PM
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You know about Xubuntu, right?
[link|http://www.xubuntu.org/|http://www.xubuntu.org/]
:-)
I haven't tried it myself.
Remember that if you do decide to put XP on it, it's much easier to install Linux afterward. (XP may wipe out Grub and Linux no matter how careful you are.) That might affect your partitioning and backup decisions.
Hang in there. You'll get over this hump.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #261,882
7/16/06 4:08:00 PM
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Do it myself anyway.
Been using xfce for quite a while now since I traditionally have been using older machines with limited graphics capability. For the most part, I don't game, so high end cards are not something I generally care about nor have sitting around.
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Post #261,907
7/16/06 11:31:49 PM
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That's disappointing
booted Xubuntu via live CD on my Thinkpad T22 with Lucent WaveLAN card. Wireless worked great once I configured my SSID and password.
I was impressed with the bootup speed(off CD at that) so went ahead and installed it. Once it was installed I went to configure the wireless again, but the card isn't listed in the network control panel :-(
Time for bed - I'll look into it tomorrow evening.
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Post #262,002
7/17/06 8:41:48 PM
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weird fix
had to install [link|http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/pcmcia-cs|pcmcia-cs] even though pcmciautils replaces it for the 26.13-rc1 and higher kernel. When installing pcmcia-cs it even told me that I should use the newer one.
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Post #261,905
7/16/06 10:56:16 PM
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Ok. How do I...
get the second display to a resolution of 1280*1024?
The LCD on the lapper has the max of 1024*768...but when I attach to the kvm and close the lid, I would like the vga out default to the 1280*1024.
Any ideas? Most of the things I've seen so far in the net search are about 2nd display concurrently...and I don't care about that.
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