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New "Correct" is a matter of consensus.
Both sides are expressing what I regard to be defensible views of communism. You and Ashton are addressing the political philosophy, Alex and others are talking about the actual expression of what is claimed, by name by the participants, to be a communist party. You're both right. But you're using the term to mean two different things and trying to show that the other is wrong.

Discussion doesn't depend upon "correct" usage. It depends on the participants agreeing on what the terms mean - whether a dictionary or encyclopedia agrees or not. Yes, things are simpler if we agree on an unbiased reference.

You're not going to convince Alex that he's wrong, and vice versa, until you come to a consensus about the terms you're using. Just as one has to come to a consensus about the use of the word free in "free software", "free lunch", "free electron", "free energy", etc.

Discussions about terminology aren't very interesting, IMO....

Cheers,
Scott.
New Tyranny of the majority?
"...Alex and others are talking about the actual expression of what is claimed, by name by the participants, to be a communist party."

And I believe I have explained why "common usage" is not the correct way to discuss the matters.

Unless you are willing to also say that hackers and crackers are both acceptable and that Internet Explorer is Free Software.

If you repeat the same lies often enough and loud enough, they become "truth".

I understand that concept.
I understand its application.
I do not have any respect for the intelligence of anyone who thinks that this "truth" is a fact.

     Nope, no abuse at Gitmo. - (marlowe) - (40)
         Re: We have been getting bad reports BUT ... - (dmarker2) - (39)
             Hey! my aunt was a 'communist in the '30s' too. - (Ashton) - (38)
                 Please do not forget the Soviet Union's communism. - (a6l6e6x) - (17)
                     Not pure Communism. - (Brandioch) - (13)
                         Was the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia purer? - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                             You tell me. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                 Re: You tell me. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                     *sigh* - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                         Seconded. No need to add much to the above. -NT - (Ashton)
                         No true Scotsmen here. Nope. - (marlowe) - (6)
                             Sometimes it would be nice........ - (Brandioch) - (5)
                                 On the other hand.... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                     Semantics - Stewart Chase - The Tyranny of Words - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                         "Correct" is a matter of consensus. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             Tyranny of the majority? - (Brandioch)
                                     Does anyone follow the pure philosophy of Marx? - (marlowe)
                         It was a facist dictatorship, not communist. -NT - (boxley)
                     Read more than once. When it had to be smuggled out. - (Ashton) - (2)
                         There is no Communism! - (marlowe) - (1)
                             "Travel, for the silly person - merely adds to his - (Ashton)
                 A real communist... - (Arkadiy) - (18)
                     You're confused there.. - (Ashton) - (17)
                         A real Communist *is* a fundamentalist. -NT - (marlowe)
                         I am afraid Marx was confused... - (Arkadiy) - (15)
                             DUH! - (Brandioch) - (14)
                                 This thread was in responce... - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                                     Perhaps you could explain? - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                         Re: Perhaps you could explain? - (Arkadiy) - (9)
                                             And you're off on what tangent? - (Brandioch) - (8)
                                                 Meanings - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                                                     Again, you've lost me. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                         Re: Again, you've lost me. - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                                             It follows the logic that you laid out. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                                 Re: It follows the logic that you laid out. - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                                     What was that? - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                         The famous last post. - (Arkadiy)
                                                                     No. Possessing some common view of a Utopia - (Ashton)
                                 Actually, I disagree - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Possibly. - (Brandioch)
                 Re: Yeah was being a bit general - (dmarker2)

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