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New Was the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia purer?
"Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge regime resulted in the massacre of at least 1.7 million people between 1975 and 1979, annihilating roughly 25 percent of the country's population."

[link|http://www.yaleherald.com/archive/xxvi/12.4.98/news/genocide!.html|Ref.]
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
New You tell me.
Was there a ruling elite or not?

You are aware of what Communism is, right?
New Re: You tell me.
Does reading Marx and Engels and The Communist Manifesto count. I've read about the Blessed Virgin and nirvana as well. Following Marx's ideas, there never has been a communist state.

Communism, in practice, is the oppression and enslavement of 97% by the ruling 3% and death to those who can see the truth.

You and Ashton will tell us it's worse than that here.
Alex

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
New *sigh*
"Does reading Marx and Engels and The Communist Manifesto count."

Reading it?

Well, that is the prerequisite for UNDERSTANDING it.

So, no. Just reading it doesn't count.

"Following Marx's ideas, there never has been a communist state."

So, why do you ask questions to which you already seem to know the answer?

"Communism, in practice, is the oppression and enslavement of 97% by the ruling 3% and death to those who can see the truth."

No, that is totalitarian socialism. "Communism" is just the name given so that people can be fooled into thinking the reality is not what it is.

"You and Ashton will tell us it's worse than that here."

Worse than that?
Not yet.
You see, over 200 years ago, we had a group of very intelligent individuals who understood that certain people would try to drag this country down to a totalitarian state.

So, this group crafted a government that had checks and balances to ensure that there would be 2 segments to oppose any totalitarian move by the other.

Unfortunately, they couldn't account for all contingencies.

They didn't realize the true extent of human stupidity over time. Particularly with regards to language and the slow erosion of rights.
New Seconded. No need to add much to the above.
     Nope, no abuse at Gitmo. - (marlowe) - (40)
         Re: We have been getting bad reports BUT ... - (dmarker2) - (39)
             Hey! my aunt was a 'communist in the '30s' too. - (Ashton) - (38)
                 Please do not forget the Soviet Union's communism. - (a6l6e6x) - (17)
                     Not pure Communism. - (Brandioch) - (13)
                         Was the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia purer? - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                             You tell me. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                 Re: You tell me. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                     *sigh* - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                         Seconded. No need to add much to the above. -NT - (Ashton)
                         No true Scotsmen here. Nope. - (marlowe) - (6)
                             Sometimes it would be nice........ - (Brandioch) - (5)
                                 On the other hand.... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                     Semantics - Stewart Chase - The Tyranny of Words - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                         "Correct" is a matter of consensus. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             Tyranny of the majority? - (Brandioch)
                                     Does anyone follow the pure philosophy of Marx? - (marlowe)
                         It was a facist dictatorship, not communist. -NT - (boxley)
                     Read more than once. When it had to be smuggled out. - (Ashton) - (2)
                         There is no Communism! - (marlowe) - (1)
                             "Travel, for the silly person - merely adds to his - (Ashton)
                 A real communist... - (Arkadiy) - (18)
                     You're confused there.. - (Ashton) - (17)
                         A real Communist *is* a fundamentalist. -NT - (marlowe)
                         I am afraid Marx was confused... - (Arkadiy) - (15)
                             DUH! - (Brandioch) - (14)
                                 This thread was in responce... - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                                     Perhaps you could explain? - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                         Re: Perhaps you could explain? - (Arkadiy) - (9)
                                             And you're off on what tangent? - (Brandioch) - (8)
                                                 Meanings - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                                                     Again, you've lost me. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                         Re: Again, you've lost me. - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                                             It follows the logic that you laid out. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                                 Re: It follows the logic that you laid out. - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                                     What was that? - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                         The famous last post. - (Arkadiy)
                                                                     No. Possessing some common view of a Utopia - (Ashton)
                                 Actually, I disagree - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Possibly. - (Brandioch)
                 Re: Yeah was being a bit general - (dmarker2)

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