But join some of the naysayers re its 'attitude' problem (I may be new to this flavor of jargon, but logic is logic - and it seems ya takes what they deem is Enough or you have to CL anything else. I like Choices.) 'Course this seems really more about Gnome vs KDE rather than each's incestuous relationship with the engine and transmission.

Also Ub. wouldn't detect even the Hayes Optima modem (on serial port) - but Mepis did.
Maybe 5.10 is now ancient, though. I may also have CD (reader) problems, so I'll get back to elementary troubleshooting. Real soon now.