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New On the laptop - could the CD drive be bad?
Hi Ashton,

It halts forthwith at "grub>"

This execrably brief comment at Mepis might be a hint, if I knew precise file loc. on the Mepis CD, for selecting the kernel. The answer re "poor I/O error recovery in grub," is unresponsive; grub wasn't broken (was it?) - and that's the Only answer.

Note the title of this *Mepis* forum - and THIS is the only response to a query with my exact symptoms? Since 8/7/05. Sheesh. They must have known I'd call.


My reading of that response is that there's something wrong with the CD drive and/or the CD. Others seem to have installed some version of Linux (even with GRUB) on a zt1145 without incident.

The fact that Knoppix also fails indicates that it's not (purely) a MEPIS problem.

Sometimes CDs burned on one system aren't readable by another. Can you burn another Linux CD at a slower speed? Sometimes that helps.

MEPIS runs well on my Thinkpad T41 laptop. :-)

Check the .ISO images on the Compaq. I believe that I included KNOPPIX, Ubuntu (Live and install) and MEPIS. They aren't the latest versions, but they might work better than the CDs you have if you can burn them slow enough.

If you ever want an ISO of some other Linux, etc., (e.g. the latest Ubuntu or Kubuntu) just let me know. It's easier for me to burn an ISO for you than to figure out how to send you a usable utility (I've never tried to do that myself). (I don't think the [link|http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:V5_X86fU_j0J:faq.mepis.net/index.php%3Fsid%3D1046%26lang%3Den%26action%3Dartikel%26cat%3D4%26id%3D15%26artlang%3Den+loadlin+1.6c-0.4&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6&client=firefox-a|loadlin] package will solve your problems, but IANK). It's a very small package - you can get loadlin 1.6 [link|ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/|here], with docs [link|http://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen/|here]. I dunno if that package is somehow better than the one you're looking for.

HTH!

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: On the laptop - could the CD drive be bad? - checking
Well... it loaded Ex Pee from scratch a couple times, in conjunction with the mentioned bug saga.

And - neither Mepis nor Ub. CD will boot on my ancient e-Machine (which booted Knoppix long ago) And.. Mepis CD-ap has trouble 'seeing' that there's a (blank) CD in its slot - And Mepis file manager churns a while, before finally displaying any old data CD - nor will it play or copy a music CD. Etc.

So crude logic suggests a misaligned? or otherwise aberrant player (and yes, IIRC that Was a relatively unused / new? one -- thanks!!) all of which: is a puzzlement.. (RIP, Yul)

And yet.. And yet, my data created on the Roxio, and 'raw' (ie CD not even closed to an intermediate-format) DirectCD: can be read, in ME - which counters that crude logic, somewhat. And Mepis also read a (CD w/ normally-closed file) - Bookmarks.

(though, while ME found and used that html file no sweat (in Fire Fox); Mepis keeps finding the old file I renamed, in Root, as "bookmarks-org" - and not the new one. Strange stuff; perhaps of the ilk of Intelligent Water and homeopathy (occasional efficacy of the latter, I verified in a personal test a few years back. Despite Avogadro's cute number and the cubic-closest packing of large molecules, or fractions thereof.. 6.023, wasn't it?)

(BTW, the really Odd aspect of preparing homeo- dilutions is the process of "sucussion" or whomping the vial against hands a number of times, before ingestion - this really does overlap into the recent Sci forum post re emotions + water. Who'd a thunk.. Can't wait for a perhaps Big surprise when the nano- folks start playing on that scale.)

Time for some CD test utils.. on All of them! Thanks for other tips - at least the notebook has another burner. Will try s l o w motion. Perhaps with sucussion.

But it's still fun, because I don't have to have any of it fixed by the 10 AM meeting Monday morning, with the CIEIO and his brother-in-law, the CTO - the one with the funny tie.

;^>

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This just in.. (Fri.)

Heh, as we suavish say -
Talkin atcha via the (earlier) Knoppix 3.3 (!= 3.3.1) demo CD: in the Compaq.
After also successfully booting same in the hP notebook. Just like old times.

(Next I will have to see if, placed in the R/W tray: boot will cycle through All CD-devices and boot from 2nd: the ~suspect CD-writer thingie, too.)

ie - there must be something Beast-style fishy about the various ways these hi burn-speed RWs go about their sprints acrosss the pits == when it comes to Reading what they scribbled. Means that I have 3+ Knoppix demos (left) which are unreadable.. maybe also a bunch in the drives of a few folks I handed them out to? over the months. :-/

So then, if it does boot from Cpq R/W OK .. I can get onto finding why that drive under *nix has trouble noticing there's a blank CD inside.
Yup - found it; somnolent at splash screen for KDE 1st try though; reboot with [don't detect much] - and here I are. SO maybe it doesn't like the install of the burner on Mepis? hmm - maybe there's one in Knoppix. k3b - check. Give it a try.
Over & out.


[early 2-12-06 addendum]
Ummm - unclear what to do with k3B in a Demo - I mean.. it needs its OS on one drive; pondered old days of one-floppy copy-tos: guess I'd need to configure a workspace on HD at boot (or one humongous RAM-disk), have it copy CD, then burn. As it was: greyed out for either drive. Er, just a report; none of this stuff needs any answers; I mean, with a manual as informative as MAN ___ ...[/add]

This K. build also found the Hayes Optima (as did Mepis) - only Doze ME hadn't a clue, forcing me to rummage around for the drivers, sometime.

Guess I'll have to show a visitor tonight, how much you can do with a demo in 5 minutes - smarter, quicker Wizards than the perverse renegrades of Redmond. A rank newbie can connect a modem; dunno re DSL.

ie One (gotcha) Down; on to the next.

We's got K-ubuntu now, I see.. perhaps by the time of Mumblebuntu I shall be ready to try a HD install of something. What do *nix folk wear? beret's taken. I have my Mad Hatter hat in leather -

moi






Edit: who Cares why.

Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 10, 2006, 06:26:51 AM EST
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 10, 2006, 07:57:33 PM EST
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 10, 2006, 08:31:15 PM EST
Expand Edited by Ashton Feb. 12, 2006, 03:44:00 AM EST
New I'm having trouble parsing what you're doing.
Your prose is getting in the way a little. :-)

You're still trying to get Linux to install on the HP laptop? The HP will boot and with run with Knoppix 3.3, but nothing higher? You can't burn a new Linux .ISO from k3B while booting Knoppix?

I can't help with running k3B from a CD boot - maybe someone else can help with that.

I can burn you the latest Knopix (4.0.2), Ubuntu (5.10 - Breezy Badger), Kubuntu (5.10), SimplyMEPIS (3.4.3) and/or anything else that might be useful (e.g. an older version of Knoppix). Burning things on my T41 laptop has been very reliable, so I would hope they would work for you.

Just let me know. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
     Dabbling in the Fields of the Lured__er, Mepis stuff - (Ashton) - (6)
         Tried Ubuntu livecd? - (pwhysall) - (2)
             Is that seal, or sigil? - (imric)
             Sorta.. - (Ashton)
         On the laptop - could the CD drive be bad? - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Re: On the laptop - could the CD drive be bad? - checking - (Ashton) - (1)
                 I'm having trouble parsing what you're doing. - (Another Scott)

None more embeddeder, I'd say.
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