Post #243,561
2/6/06 3:15:55 AM
2/6/06 4:22:59 PM
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Peter is right about #1
A very common trick in the spammers arsenal is to compromise a machine and then start sending spams as a variety of people.
In order for this to work you need to be able to forge mail as any person in the world, which is much easier if you have your own SMTP server. Not a very complicated SMTP server, but an SMTP server nonetheless.
Oh, you wanted proof? [link|http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/04/27/rise_of_the_spam_zombies/|http://www.theregist...the_spam_zombies/], [link|http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6150/products_white_paper0900aecd802571d2.shtml|http://www.cisco.com...ecd802571d2.shtml], and [link|http://www.spam-site.com/spam-zombies.shtml|http://www.spam-site...pam-zombies.shtml] demonstrate that this is a well-known technique that is widely used by spammers.
Cheers,
Ben
UPDATE: Brain fart. The "one person in address book to another" trick is virus authors, not spammers.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Edited by ben_tilly
Feb. 6, 2006, 04:22:59 PM EST
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Post #243,570
2/6/06 7:38:31 AM
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Thanks...
TheRegister seemed surprised about trojans including an smtp server in 2003 - it was apparently rare then; I'd still like to see percentages, but I'll accept Cisco's use of the word 'common' for this technique now. If this technique works so well, then why doesn't everyone use it, I wonder?
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #243,576
2/6/06 8:03:15 AM
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port 25 blocking by the providers stop most of that
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
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Post #243,578
2/6/06 9:03:58 AM
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Glad I've got Speakeasy, then
and Internet Express before that. I've never had trouble running my own - save once, when I was inadvertently relaying, and Speakeasy contacted me right away to let me know.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #243,645
2/6/06 4:32:48 PM
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ObLRPD - *gloat*
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Post #243,664
2/6/06 6:01:40 PM
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*opens mouth to reply, then just shakes head instead*
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #243,666
2/6/06 6:03:48 PM
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I'm definitely not paying extra for spleen.
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Post #243,712
2/6/06 11:52:11 PM
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Mmmmmm... gloat cheese!
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Post #243,788
2/7/06 7:07:42 PM
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Is that an LRPD? If not, it should be!
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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Post #243,792
2/7/06 7:59:11 PM
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Ph34r the triple-recursive meta-LRPD.
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Post #243,906
2/8/06 6:52:09 PM
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That's why I have a problem with history.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
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Post #243,936
2/8/06 9:38:59 PM
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Chicken jokes!
ObYou'reAllFuckers
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #243,941
2/8/06 9:52:52 PM
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hemenez masterbation stories?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
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Post #243,943
2/8/06 9:54:08 PM
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That's a scary story.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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