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New you want to take in my 13yo?
Gonna print this post and put it on his door saying remember that nice man from Beep's party? this is where your gonna live.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

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New "nice man"?? WTF did that come from?
I've never been nice to children in the first place.

I tolerate children until they become what I preceive to be a problem. Then I find someplace else to go to get away from them before I take matters into my own hands.

No sense in talking to their parents, because it's pretty damned obvious that they have no control over them. The mealy-mouthed pleas for the child to behave are pathetic. "Oh, Johnny, please settle down.", doesn't cut it with some of these kids. You use a voice that commands attention followed by a swift kick in the ass. It's what Buford T. Justis calls "An Attention-Getter".

I've upset members of my SO's family on more than one ocassion and I'll not apologize for it.... ever.

If they were doing their job, then I wouldn't have to lift 7-year-old Brennan 3 feet off the floor by his shirt-front and hold him there in the first place. Either control him, or get him out of my face, if you want him to live.

And, yes, that's a true story. Happened about 5-6 years ago. He's 12 or 13 now.

I never hit him, slapped him, or left any mark on him. Just picked him up and held him in the air, followed by a voice (not raised) that conveyed the message that I was not going to take anymore of this. I imagine the seething glare in my eyes helped as well. The boy got the message. The kid never said or did another thing to set me off the rest of the evening.

The parents were shocked, the grandparents were shocked, but my SO didn't say much to me about it. She was getting a bit angry about it as well.

"Nice man"??? I don't friggin' think so.....
New Compared to the Box, that's downright civilized. ;)
New Sounds a little like my methods
Once my mom had me help her with her Sunday School class. She left the room to get something, and all of a sudden, 10 children leapt from their chairs and began racing around the room. I started grabbing one child at a time, seized the child and plopped him in his chair and said DON'T MOVE! I succeeded with each child.

Mom came back and they were all sitting there looking scared to death of me. Mom said, "What did you do?" I said, "I put them in their chairs."

Mom never asked me to help again. ;)

Brenda



"Excel is to math what a Microwave Oven is to cooking!"
New Sounds.... appropriate
well, Traditional anyway.

Sunday School class is where you learn better to abandon spontaneity, eschew any nascent, fledgling Questions you might have about the Mysterious-program you've been sent to absorb - and where you get the first Formal-lessons on Never Questioning authority. As the Jesuits say, "..give me a child til age 5 --"

Nice intro to Righteousness-101; you helped a bit, too - gave them an intro to the main method of inculcation: fear. Unwittingly, of course.

(I know. I know - 'discipline 'is ~another matter; we invented that word to justify not-drowning the more rambunctious/freest amidst our fleglings. Amazing anyone ever grows up to Question Authority\ufffd at all.) er, cha cha cha

     My cable died for an hour tonight. - (broomberg) - (27)
         You know what this means... (new thread) - (Another Scott)
         She sounds just like - (imqwerky) - (17)
             I know - (broomberg) - (15)
                 This whole thing reminds me how glad I am I never had kids. - (n3jja) - (14)
                     {the infamous Unborn-zygote thanks you, I wot.} -NT - (Ashton)
                     you want to take in my 13yo? - (boxley) - (4)
                         "nice man"?? WTF did that come from? - (n3jja) - (3)
                             Compared to the Box, that's downright civilized. ;) -NT - (inthane-chan)
                             Sounds a little like my methods - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                 Sounds.... appropriate - (Ashton)
                     I completely relate - (Nightowl)
                     That's the way I lean too - (lister) - (2)
                         Well, things are much more efficient without them, for one. -NT - (Ashton)
                         A small child is a noise, with dirt on it :) -NT - (Meerkat)
                     Pregnancy is a parasitic infection. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                         Well MY kids are perfect! - (imqwerky)
                         That's how I viewed pregnancy - (bionerd) - (1)
                             That's not all! - (a6l6e6x)
             You have no idea what you just offered -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Imagine if she had a "REAL" crisis... - (gdaustin) - (5)
             That's "extreme"?? - (admin)
             Re: Imagine if she had a "REAL" crisis... - (Steve Lowe)
             we don't have cable either... - (cforde)
             I can vouch - (imqwerky) - (1)
                 I'm reading that book right now - (bionerd)
         Re: My cable died for an hour tonight. - (lincoln) - (1)
             Already have permission - (broomberg)

Naive is one word for it.
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