Revision control comparison

Post #223,648 by dlevitt 9/8/05 9:33:21 AM Reply	Revision control comparison We're _finally_ looking to replace our PVCS system with something not a few years past its 'best used by' date. One option is the current version of PVCS called "Serena Version Manager" [a "free" upgrade] So, I was wondering: 1) Has anyone else encountered the Serena software? [if so, what were the gotchas?] 2) I didn't find one with a quick google search - has anyone seen the Serena stuff in a comparison or independant review [could only find cheerful, paid for sales literature in the first couple of pages]
Post #223,662 by admin 9/8/05 11:21:47 AM Reply	I'd be suspicious of anything associated with PVCS Since we're currently saddled with that albatross as well. I'm hoping to get us on Subversion soon. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #223,674 by tuberculosis 9/8/05 12:24:55 PM 8/21/07 12:37:43 PM Reply	Ditto - she's a dog "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:37:43 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #223,670 by Yendor 9/8/05 12:07:05 PM Reply	Talked to a friend of mine... ...who is an SCM type, and has worked with PVCS as well as others in the past. I posted your message to her, and here's what she had to say (over IM): [Serena] is one of the best. The only real gotcha is that you have to know what your going to do when you first set it up for the upgrade. You can't plan as you go or it will take you more time in the long run and just move over the code to a fresh new project and blow it away. though this doesn't sound like much it is time consuming. That being said, I've worked with PVCS before and, like Scott, I wasn't all that impressed by it. I'd much rather use CVS or SVN. But I'd also rather use PVCS than MS VSS. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #223,700 by dlevitt 9/8/05 3:03:25 PM Reply	PVCS and the past Oh, I've worked with PVCS in the past - it wasn't a bad solution circa 1985 or so. But, it is certainly past its 'best if used by' date. The only non vendor [Not Serena or a related] site I've found that even mentions PVCS is someting called 'cmcrossroads.com' - browsing their message pages related to PVCS indicates that no one is willingly _starting_ a project using it. We have some structural issues with the existing PVCS archive organization [need to re-organized their internal structure], so there would not appear to be any time savings relative to moving to a non PVCS system [e.g. subversion]. An advantage here is we are not concerned with supporting any older revisions - just the current production server and the next revision. A disadvantage is corperate reluctance to use free/open software - even when it is clearly a better choice.
Post #223,723 by admin 9/8/05 6:01:21 PM Reply	Re: PVCS and the past One thing we noticed with PVCS vs. Subversion is the speed: svn is amazingly fast in comparison. Importing a directory of images and static HTML took PVCS over an hour (file share to a very fast disk array). The same operation in svn took about 10 seconds (dav-svn/apache2 running on a PIII-800). Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #225,708 by Simon_Jester 9/21/05 8:42:22 AM Reply	PVCS is a dog...especially on Unix.
Post #225,724 by hnick 9/21/05 9:42:16 AM Reply	Watcha got against dogs? They're nice; PVCS isn't

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