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If the path to FC3 had taken me via FC2, things might well have gone differently, but at the time, friends who knew better waved me off of FC1 and FC2. They were split on whether Suse, Debian, Gentoo, or *cough* FreeBSD was the better next step from RH9. (Getting a couple of Debian and FreeBSD guys into a "discussion" is almost as much fun as an emacs vs. vi argument.) Then we began updating our work boxes from RH9 to FC3 and that settled it.

I went back and looked to see how I could have missed any mention of SELinux. It's not mentioned in either of the two most recent books I have on hand, ([link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/|Linux Cookbook] and [link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxsvrhack/|Linux Server Hacks]), nor in [link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/|Running Linux], though mine is 2nd edition, and should probably get recycled to recover the shelf space.

SELinux is mentioned in the [link|http://www.fedorafaq.org/|Unofficial Fedora FAQ], (the official source for "how do I play my MP3?" questions), but in a dismissive way in a footnote.

Once you know what word to search on, though, there's plenty of info available. Go figure.
New BTW, from one whom usually
makes a big fool of himself... well the FOOL part is the hard one, I am already BIG.

Welcome to Z, at iwethey.org.

I know how you got here, but thanks for getting involved here. I hope you'll find we are a buncha wierd assholes that actually discuss things that are interestig. You discover quickly whom the "usual suspects" are as well as the ones to steer clear of... or to engage for enjoyment (fun to pick on, I should say). But still watch out for those ones, as they usually pack a good punch at sometime in the foray.

Anywho, here is hoping you stick to the wall the pasta tested on.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"]
No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Getting a couple of Debian and FreeBSD guys into a "discussion" is almost as much fun as an emacs vs. vi argument.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     Fedora Core 3 vs your Apache/Unix expectations - (ben_tilly) - (46)
         What a whiner. - (broomberg) - (39)
             If you know that it is the issue -NT - (ben_tilly) - (27)
                 The old chestnut about the retired guru - (drewk) - (25)
                     Nah - (broomberg) - (24)
                         You're being an asshole. Inappropriately. - (ben_tilly) - (23)
                             Oh boy, I've insulted a saint - (broomberg) - (14)
                                 How many machines have you installed/tweaked lately? - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                     And now you've hit another of my hot buttons - (broomberg) - (12)
                                         That's getting to be like a game - (ben_tilly)
                                         Re: And now you've hit another of my hot buttons - (dws) - (10)
                                             3rd(?) Post and... - (pwhysall)
                                             Reading for comprehension - (broomberg) - (8)
                                                 AHHHhhhh. - (folkert) - (7)
                                                     Machismo? - (broomberg) - (6)
                                                         But can you wear boots? -NT - (drewk) - (5)
                                                             How did you get an 'NT' flag? - (broomberg) - (4)
                                                                 Easy. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                     arrg let him figger it out himself!! -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                         A boxley blog? Somehow, I don't think that's a good thing.. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                             easy blog, just link back to here -NT - (boxley)
                             No, no he isn't. He's being realistic. - (folkert) - (6)
                                 Why yes, I do - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                     And why should we believe you? - (drewk) - (3)
                                         Or there is no such thing as 2 5ths in an ordered list! - (broomberg) - (1)
                                             /me ROTFLMAO -NT - (folkert)
                                         Gah -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                     I liked the original version better. ;-j -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Did he find the problem? - (boxley)
                 During the Fedora install process... - (ubernostrum)
             Re: What a whiner. - (dws) - (10)
                 No whiner - I was wrong - (broomberg) - (9)
                     No worries - (dws) - (2)
                         BTW, from one whom usually - (folkert)
                         ICLRPD - (ben_tilly)
                     Oops - (dws) - (5)
                         You found it. - (Another Scott)
                         *Z* is forever... FOREVAR! HAHAHAHAHH! -NT - (folkert)
                         No delete - (broomberg) - (2)
                             hew-haw, hee-haw.... :-P -NT - (folkert)
                             Boy I'm glad - (imric)
         Moron - (broomberg) - (4)
             Let's see - (jake123)
             Yes, I know him. You're complete offbase. - (ben_tilly)
             Re: Moron - (dws) - (1)
                 Hey, that's not what your blog says! - (broomberg)
         Well, it is official... on CNET. - (folkert)

It's only a few more levels till we're throwing lions to the lawyers in arena combat.
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