Post #200,590
3/26/05 10:16:16 AM
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No whiner - I was wrong
When I played with FC2, almost no one was able to get it to work due to the SeLinux being turned on by default, with minimal policies being setup correctly. Every readme, every FAQ, made it quite clear that this was an experimental release, that SeLinux was here, and don't expect anything to work.
So after I posted this stuff, I went to review the variety of docs for FC3. They practically buried the SeLinux mentions. Bastards.
Sorry about jumping the gun on you.
Here is a pointer to my dealing with it:
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=180483|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=180483]
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Post #200,597
3/26/05 11:09:37 AM
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No worries
If the path to FC3 had taken me via FC2, things might well have gone differently, but at the time, friends who knew better waved me off of FC1 and FC2. They were split on whether Suse, Debian, Gentoo, or *cough* FreeBSD was the better next step from RH9. (Getting a couple of Debian and FreeBSD guys into a "discussion" is almost as much fun as an emacs vs. vi argument.) Then we began updating our work boxes from RH9 to FC3 and that settled it.
I went back and looked to see how I could have missed any mention of SELinux. It's not mentioned in either of the two most recent books I have on hand, ([link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/|Linux Cookbook] and [link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxsvrhack/|Linux Server Hacks]), nor in [link|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/|Running Linux], though mine is 2nd edition, and should probably get recycled to recover the shelf space.
SELinux is mentioned in the [link|http://www.fedorafaq.org/|Unofficial Fedora FAQ], (the official source for "how do I play my MP3?" questions), but in a dismissive way in a footnote.
Once you know what word to search on, though, there's plenty of info available. Go figure.
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Post #200,604
3/26/05 11:42:17 AM
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BTW, from one whom usually
makes a big fool of himself... well the FOOL part is the hard one, I am already BIG.
Welcome to Z, at iwethey.org.
I know how you got here, but thanks for getting involved here. I hope you'll find we are a buncha wierd assholes that actually discuss things that are interestig. You discover quickly whom the "usual suspects" are as well as the ones to steer clear of... or to engage for enjoyment (fun to pick on, I should say). But still watch out for those ones, as they usually pack a good punch at sometime in the foray.
Anywho, here is hoping you stick to the wall the pasta tested on.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #200,645
3/26/05 5:20:56 PM
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ICLRPD
Getting a couple of Debian and FreeBSD guys into a "discussion" is almost as much fun as an emacs vs. vi argument.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #200,599
3/26/05 11:21:13 AM
3/26/05 11:25:33 AM
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Oops
Double-post. How'd that happen, and where's the delete key on this thing?
Edited by dws
March 26, 2005, 11:25:33 AM EST
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Post #200,601
3/26/05 11:34:24 AM
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You found it.
The LRPD [1] is greedy. One has to learn to be careful with their posting finger.
There's no way to delete posts here, by design. There have been 1 or 2 instances when that rule has been superseded, but it's only done in extreme circumstances.
HTH.
And welcome!
Cheers,
Scott.
[1] LRPD = Little Red Plasma Dot - the "new post" indicator graphic for those who have logged into their account.
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Post #200,602
3/26/05 11:35:13 AM
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*Z* is forever... FOREVAR! HAHAHAHAHH!
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #200,603
3/26/05 11:35:19 AM
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No delete
Doublepost happens when you go <BACK><SUBMIT> by accident.
Unless there is a very special case, which could cause harm (as defined by our wonderful sysadmin), all posts (even edited) are fully viewable for all eternity.
Which means some time in the future, someone WILL see me making an idiot of myself calling you names.
Hopefully it won't be when I am interviewing for a position, working for someone who knows you.
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Post #200,605
3/26/05 11:43:08 AM
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hew-haw, hee-haw.... :-P
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #200,616
3/26/05 12:35:52 PM
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Boy I'm glad
I never make a fool of myself...
[image|/forums/images/warning.png|0|This is sarcasm...]
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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