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New It's called 'countersteering'
And yes, it is how you steer a motorcycle. As Ashton said, you don't learn kinetics intellectually, but this one can be proved. Just get up to about 25 mph on a motorcycle, take one hand off the handlebars, and push the other side with an open palm. (I'm assuming you can catch it before everything falls over.) You will definitely lean in the direction of the bar you just pushed.

Found a good link [link|http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/Teaching/bicycles.html|here]. He says that the gyroscopic effect is negligible, although he is talking about a bicycle. Motorcycle wheels are quite a bit heavier.

And another link [link|http://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_5.htm|here] focussing on motorcycles from an instructor who got tired of answering the question over and over.

I've also done the experiment with a bicycle tire. At the Science Museum in Cleveland and the Franklin Institure in Philly, they have an example of this. There's a rotating stool, like a bar stool, mounted to the floor. Nearby are several different-sized bike wheels with handles mounted on the axle, and a rotating drum you can use to get it spinning. The idea is to sit on the stool holding the spinning wheel upright, then turn it on its side. You start spinning surprisingly quickly. I can't imagine the force of a motocycle wheel/tire at any significant speed not making a difference.
We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html|Thomas Friedman]

PS: I want one of your water scooters, too. Oh, and the girl in the photo is on a rig that is towed behind a boat and allows a paraplegic to waterski. I've seen them used before.
New Nice links - and.. so That's how the girl's rig works!
That's clever of her - clearly then, her contraption offers a bit more stability during the crucial phase of coming up out of the water: training wheels for a water ski.

One exception to all of the above: Sidecars!

Vincent in particular, featured an eccentric cam on the (parallelogram girder-fork) linkage, so that rake/ thus trail could be altered with a wrench. While I have little experience with a sidehack, and none with the racing kinda uni-morphs.. you 'steer', not countersteer. Tends to freak out the newbie, coming off of solo. (Also vice versa, when one learns on a hack)

I also saw the Gamaunt 'leaning sidecar' in my youth, driven by the designer. In that scheme, where a parallelogram flex-linkage allows the car's lean to follow the bike's lean: you'd be back to counter-steering. (Alas, never got to try it) Note that certain of the Brit monster singles like the Panther, maybe Norton ES-2? featured usual telescopic fixed rake/trail such that - fine for sidehack work; squirrely when ridden solo.. One size does not fit all.

How odd that, even riders.. had some objections to author's explanation vs. "how they thought they were riding!"

Lastly, I am sure (!) that "the moving center" in us (by whatever name) operates much faster than does / can intellect: if you ever try to control even your car: by methodically applying forces to feet, hands, according to your er physics knowledge - you are apt to lose control (especially at speed). Corrections are 'instantaneous' / simultaneous, once that brain has trained-itself. On a motorcycle at speed, it is indeed a ballet of nuanced muscle pressures all around the body. Musicians describe similar exhilaration after a good performance as do cyclists - after clearing Bray Hill at the ton.

Nice you had a chance to find out for yourself Oh.. and survive that exhilaration-fix :-\ufffd


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     Doesn't someone here do this? - (drewk) - (33)
         That's *intensely* annoying. - (CRConrad) - (32)
             Wing In Ground Effect - (cforde) - (30)
                 Then there's ... - (drewk) - (2)
                     GoodGawd - it lifts 540 TONS! - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Well they do have a plane ... - (drewk)
                 Oh, so *that's* what it is! - (CRConrad) - (26)
                     prior art - (cforde) - (1)
                         Naaah.... Where's the engine?!? :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                     Dunno about 'handling' though.. - (Ashton) - (7)
                         One aspect of handling - (Ric Locke) - (6)
                             Gyroscopes? Don't got to show no steenkin Gyroscopes! - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 Don't got to show no steenkin Gyroscopes! - (Ric Locke) - (1)
                                     Still a gnat or two, but.. - (Ashton)
                             Didn't know that. But, I assume we can do without it? - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                 It's called 'countersteering' - (drewk) - (1)
                                     Nice links - and.. so That's how the girl's rig works! - (Ashton)
                     uh ahem - (boxley) - (15)
                         You thinking James Bond? - (CRConrad) - (14)
                             Heh.. have to dig out some Vincent lore. - (Ashton)
                             nope, thinking nancy lake. - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Ah... She any relation of Ricki's? But: - (CRConrad)
                             Bombardier - (Ric Locke) - (10)
                                 Coupla points... - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                     Pivots - (Ric Locke) - (8)
                                         The Higher School of Aquatic Engineering. (Didn't go to it.) - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                             A land-based conundrum.. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                 Metastability - (Ric Locke) - (5)
                                                     LRPD's eval: IWETHEY's Terrible Horde of Epithetic Yammerers - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                         Thought that was "Pathetic Yammerers" -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                             It is - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                 LRPD be versatile as well as prescient.. - (Ashton)
                                                         Where's the skill? - (Ric Locke)
             *intensely* annoying. - (Ric Locke)

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