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New Don't got to show no steenkin Gyroscopes!
Shoo, Ash. Did the experiment with a bicycle once [had been reading science fiction -- remember Commodore Grimes?] Clamp bike frame in vise with front wheel off the ground and free; spin wheel, then rotate handlebars. Bike leans!

Happens the precession couple is just right to help get the thing leaned over. Nifty, wot? -- hard to believe a two-wheeler [well, awright, a simulation] would work right without that force in the mix. And my son's Rice Rocket has a front wheel that's, well, heavy. Rubber tough enough for tires will do that. Plenty of gyro-thingies without needing RPMs in four digits.

But for Christian's machine -- front "ski" needs sortofakindofa complex shape, IMO -- relatively flat in front, descending to a deep V in back; good place for the intake of the water jet, if a good flexible coupling can be found. Back one a little bigger -- idea is, front ski is only partially touching; you want the area in water contact to have the same bike mass / square whatever on both skis. Rear needs a pretty deep skeg, I think. -- and steering won't be by the handlebars; this is gonna be a "lean-only" machine, more like a hang glider than a bike. Let the front ski move against a spring for turns, but it still needs handlebars for the coolness.

Not to hard I think to hide enough voids in the frame that it barely floats. With engine air intake well elevated ["swimming jeep" :-) ] it at least doesn't go full fathom five with each wipeout.

Three, at least, Christian. This is sounding like more fun all the time. Need to get details nailed down, PERT chart properly colored in for delivery next Memorial Day [traditional beginning of summer here in the Untied Snakes..]
Regards,
Ric
New Still a gnat or two, but..
Umm - motorcycle mass (of relevant objects) vs those toy bicycles OK? And the angle of lean (however aided or abetted by pesky torque) is still: set by rider on a motorcycle (or bike) er 'commanding' the angle of lean via contrary force on handlebars, positioning body for correct CG height! Checkout Isle of Man -like positions and rapid body shifting, for illustration.

Good thoughts on the propulsion, though steering and powering simultaneously + above matters = time to consult the Cartercopter team for weekend duty? I can't see much way to do the usual prop drive w/o some paraplegic worries and other problems of keeping the sucker in water. Tractor treads a la Pelton water wheel?

But what I really want











Catch Rocketman?
Yeah... rocket backpack + asbestos pants and nice control via say embedded-Linux and my 'palm squeezing' control. Who needs a space-frame? Solid-fuel accessory for those long cruises (throttleable via \ufffd means natch). All the stuff's there - what are we, a buncha Wimps?


Ashton Mitty Tesla
     Doesn't someone here do this? - (drewk) - (33)
         That's *intensely* annoying. - (CRConrad) - (32)
             Wing In Ground Effect - (cforde) - (30)
                 Then there's ... - (drewk) - (2)
                     GoodGawd - it lifts 540 TONS! - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Well they do have a plane ... - (drewk)
                 Oh, so *that's* what it is! - (CRConrad) - (26)
                     prior art - (cforde) - (1)
                         Naaah.... Where's the engine?!? :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                     Dunno about 'handling' though.. - (Ashton) - (7)
                         One aspect of handling - (Ric Locke) - (6)
                             Gyroscopes? Don't got to show no steenkin Gyroscopes! - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 Don't got to show no steenkin Gyroscopes! - (Ric Locke) - (1)
                                     Still a gnat or two, but.. - (Ashton)
                             Didn't know that. But, I assume we can do without it? - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                 It's called 'countersteering' - (drewk) - (1)
                                     Nice links - and.. so That's how the girl's rig works! - (Ashton)
                     uh ahem - (boxley) - (15)
                         You thinking James Bond? - (CRConrad) - (14)
                             Heh.. have to dig out some Vincent lore. - (Ashton)
                             nope, thinking nancy lake. - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Ah... She any relation of Ricki's? But: - (CRConrad)
                             Bombardier - (Ric Locke) - (10)
                                 Coupla points... - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                     Pivots - (Ric Locke) - (8)
                                         The Higher School of Aquatic Engineering. (Didn't go to it.) - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                             A land-based conundrum.. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                 Metastability - (Ric Locke) - (5)
                                                     LRPD's eval: IWETHEY's Terrible Horde of Epithetic Yammerers - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                         Thought that was "Pathetic Yammerers" -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                             It is - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                 LRPD be versatile as well as prescient.. - (Ashton)
                                                         Where's the skill? - (Ric Locke)
             *intensely* annoying. - (Ric Locke)

G'day, mate, throw another Mozart on the harpsichord!
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