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New Considering QWest offers an "upscale" offering...
...that uses the same equipment, but no PPPoE, ("Always on internet!") it appears to be some kind of market segmentation thing.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
New Qwest line with local ISP
No PPPoE here. Qwest provided modem/router, which I have configured just as a bridge. My inlaws have Qwest/MSN with the same modem/router..but it uses PPPoE. I do my routing and firewalling with a linux box (IPCop) as I have a /29 network from my ISP.
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Steve
     PPPoE - (inthane-chan) - (12)
         Most hardware routers/firewalls have PPPoE built in - (admin)
         How about trying - (folkert)
         what your dslam likes to hear - (daemon)
         Price of going over copper that was never designed for > 8Kb -NT - (pwhysall) - (5)
             Price, my ass. - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                 They must be providing a router, then. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Considering QWest offers an "upscale" offering... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                         Qwest line with local ISP - (Steve Lowe)
             No. - (imric)
         It is for login processing and accounting - (broomberg) - (2)
             Like I said... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 No you didn't. - (broomberg)

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