Post #18,473
11/15/01 6:56:05 PM
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I'm too lazy to look up link and Name this official fallacy
Another strategic subject change?
But if you're gonna weasel on, "er it's just one or two who BUY their seat" - I think it's a lot more: In CA alone a few elections ago, One Silly Valley sleazoid spent big bux and lost; another ditto and got in. Insurance Commissioner Quackenbush is ex-officio but still in deep legal doo doo. We have the tycoon who just bought election in NY; more waiting - it works so well. One or three? Hardly.
That you Can Buy a seat: is true and also a quite lesser problem than Corporations buying LOTS of seats. This makes the system massively BROKEN, in the particular and in the general. Even the 'personal fortunes' so-called, mostly derive from the Corporate accumulation of most wealth around - and that person's Corp role.
But I guess You could call that: bizness as usual. Right? (Oh: and, the Market will correct All .. .. given enough .. .. .. t i m e) Right? Not to worry.
{sigh}
Belief is such an Interesting phenomenon.
A.
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Post #18,478
11/15/01 7:20:42 PM
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Why me?
I simply point out that not everyone uses their own money and you go off on me again?
Find another target
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
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Post #18,486
11/15/01 8:31:07 PM
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Because..
(in cartoon showing Sad Sack, a large cloud behind him with a Giant Hand protruding - about to thwack him on back of head.. Deep Voice saying:)
You Piss Me Off....
Nah.
Just trying to avoid what my mater taught me to avoid. Sorta like.. a foolish consistency is the Hobgoblin of.. something or other
So can't help it - when I see such consistent patterns in otherwise intelligent folk, my early conditioning just kicks in (or to use the jargon most familiar)
How's yer exception handling routine working?
:=\ufffd
(OK - not everybody uses their own money. Now about the ones who use Others' == Corporate money to buy seats ?? Remedies? Give up? False assertion?)
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Post #18,494
11/15/01 9:41:56 PM
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All I did...
...if you would have bothered to follow along...is challenge the statement that all candidates used millions of their own money...something that you already know to be true (and so do I)...
And for that, I get launched into about corporate interest in politics...an item which we already discussed...and I already pointed out that I agree with you that it needs to be changed.
In other words...we've had the discussion...no need to bring it up again. If you'ld follow along instead of just reading my posts (keeping with the thread is goot (tm))..then you'd save yourself some typing and me the problem of telling you again that I agree with you already re: campaign financing.
We don't agree in the corporation as the supreme evil...but on that we will probably never even get close.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #18,495
11/15/01 10:03:50 PM
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Well___OK___ demi-Supreme Evil then. What - no solutions ??
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Post #18,496
11/15/01 10:23:39 PM
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42
oops...that would be the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything...
Don't know if that covers Supreme (or even demi-) evil...I'll have to ask the mice.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #18,506
11/15/01 11:35:29 PM
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8\ufffd - It's *always* about Sex, in the End.
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Post #18,534
11/16/01 9:17:29 AM
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Challenging a red-herring...how quaint.
And here I thought you passed high-school English. ...if you would have bothered to follow along...is challenge the statement that all candidates used millions of their own money...something that you already know to be true (and so do I)... [emphasis added] Of course not all candidates use their own money. That is self-obvious.....and had that been my original premise, we could have dispensed with this a long time ago. Now let's try debating the actual issue, and not create straw men. Reading is a skill.
jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #18,535
11/16/01 9:27:19 AM
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Nah...
...because I'll post to you and then have to deal with Ashton flying in from left field again.
Besides, we're not horribly far apart on this point...and probably agree almost across the board...
So its not really worth a debate.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #18,746
11/19/01 9:26:19 AM
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OK, but as far as a Left Fielder goes...
...Ash is one of the more entertaining (Certainly better than anything the Cubs have come up with in the last...oh, say 2 decades...)
And he's even occasionally enlightening (at least, he makes you think, don't he...)
jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
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