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Post #18,274

11/14/01 1:39:06 PM

What are *you* babbling about?

One of the conflicts of the early 20th century in the U.S. was union organization and Big Capitol, as you put it - and the rise of organized labor as a result. The U.S. was quite heavily unionized until the rise of the service society.

Or am I misunderstanding what you're calling organized labor?

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Post #18,275

11/14/01 1:49:18 PM

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot

(since it's so particularly particular to America): And above all, their crowning glory (reminiscent of the GPL as an example of "Intellectual Judo"), getting organized labour to discredit *itself* by becoming a close copy of the mediaeval Guilds system; pretty much the antithesis of what modern unions are supposed to be.

There, make better sense now?

Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything

Alternative views - (TTC) - (55) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:25:56 PM EST

Thanks! Mother lode... and Molly Ivins too - - (Ashton) - Nov. 7, 2001, 09:06:59 PM EST

Re: Alternative views - (TTC) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:44:23 PM EST

Fine link this one - (boxley) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:58:19 PM EST

"Marginalized views" would be a more appropriate title. - (marlowe) - (51) - Nov. 8, 2001, 11:40:14 AM EST

The point you don't get... - (inthane-chan) - (50) - Nov. 8, 2001, 11:58:00 AM EST

Close enough, Thane-san.. close enough. - (Ashton) - (49) - Nov. 8, 2001, 12:58:49 PM EST

I'm not betting on it. - (Brandioch) - (47) - Nov. 8, 2001, 01:24:20 PM EST

Just what would you suggest be done? - (screamer) - (46) - Nov. 8, 2001, 05:29:05 PM EST

Covered in another thread. - (Brandioch) - (30) - Nov. 8, 2001, 06:10:27 PM EST

But when we try >that<... - (bepatient) - (28) - Nov. 8, 2001, 09:32:33 PM EST

No quarrel with that list - (Ashton) - Nov. 8, 2001, 09:28:39 PM EST

WTO? - (Brandioch) - (26) - Nov. 9, 2001, 02:00:20 PM EST

Exploitation vs. Protectionism - (ChrisR) - (23) - Nov. 9, 2001, 02:16:08 PM EST

Well said. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 9, 2001, 02:28:21 PM EST

Develop local businesses. - (Brandioch) - (21) - Nov. 9, 2001, 05:28:52 PM EST

Catch 22 - (bepatient) - (20) - Nov. 9, 2001, 05:48:55 PM EST

Easy answer. - (Brandioch) - (19) - Nov. 9, 2001, 06:06:39 PM EST

Re: Easy answer. - (bepatient) - (18) - Nov. 9, 2001, 11:30:26 PM EST

Exploitation vs development. - (Brandioch) - (17) - Nov. 11, 2001, 11:02:53 PM EST

Re: Exploitation vs development. - (bepatient) - (16) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:20:39 AM EST

Pattern recognition time, again.. - (Ashton) - (15) - Nov. 12, 2001, 05:28:46 PM EST

Keep up... - (bepatient) - (14) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:12:42 PM EST

OK I think we have a platform here - (Ashton) - (8) - Nov. 12, 2001, 07:30:59 PM EST

Wow... - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:08:43 PM EST

Yes, bad association: *The Nothing Party* it is! - (Ashton) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:54:35 PM EST

Re: OK I think we have a platform here - (TTC) - (5) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:35:22 PM EST

reread the treaty of the high seas - (boxley) - Nov. 13, 2001, 12:17:49 AM EST

Correction... - (bepatient) - (3) - Nov. 13, 2001, 12:32:24 AM EST

Re: Correction... - (TTC) - (2) - Nov. 13, 2001, 08:34:03 AM EST

I don't think we're interested in "moral high ground" - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 11:15:26 AM EST

Re: I don't think we're interested in "moral high ground" - (TTC) - Nov. 16, 2001, 03:58:05 AM EST

Re: Keep up... - (wharris2) - (3) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:22:50 PM EST

Great.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:11:16 PM EST

I was kind. - (wharris2) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:23:52 PM EST

Thanks -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:36:34 PM EST

point of order - (boxley) - Nov. 13, 2001, 12:09:29 AM EST

I think it's dangerous... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Nov. 9, 2001, 04:05:38 PM EST

Thanks UK for the term, 'sticky wicket' :( -NT - (Ashton) - Nov. 9, 2001, 04:39:40 PM EST

You'll get no argument here... - (screamer) - Nov. 8, 2001, 09:48:48 PM EST

Re: Just what would you suggest be done? - (TTC) - (4) - Nov. 8, 2001, 08:49:00 PM EST

Simple... - (screamer) - Nov. 9, 2001, 12:16:27 PM EST

Your country shrugs at massive civvy deaths ]:-> - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2001, 10:37:42 PM EST

Right to Life, Bill.. Sacredness of Life. - (Ashton) - Nov. 8, 2001, 11:36:46 PM EST

Fundamental flaw here. - (Ashton) - Nov. 9, 2001, 12:07:11 AM EST

You say that as if it were SO OBVIOUSLY a good thing. - (CRConrad) - (9) - Nov. 14, 2001, 12:44:47 PM EST

What are *you* babbling about? - (wharris2) - (1) - Nov. 14, 2001, 01:39:06 PM EST

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot - (CRConrad) - Nov. 14, 2001, 01:49:18 PM EST

CRC - My European nemesis... - (screamer) - (6) - Nov. 14, 2001, 02:42:15 PM EST

"Quote just a tad further down in same post"? No effing fun! - (CRConrad) - (5) - Nov. 14, 2001, 07:34:41 PM EST

Stop it! Stop it! - (Ashton) - Nov. 14, 2001, 08:36:00 PM EST

Well Da was a shop steward UAW, Eddie Burns his left hand - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 14, 2001, 10:34:44 PM EST

Why don't you go back where you came from :-) - (screamer) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2001, 10:10:17 AM EST

workin on it :) -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 15, 2001, 11:33:31 AM EST

I'll raise your meese and ... - (screamer) - Nov. 15, 2001, 10:05:14 AM EST

I'm not betting on it. - (Brandioch) - Nov. 8, 2001, 01:24:20 PM EST

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