Some of the conclusions that *what* arrives at?

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Post #17,962 by ben_tilly 11/12/01 8:05:18 PM Reply	Some of the conclusions that what arrives at? Evolution says nothing one way or the other about whether there could possibly be a God. That is to say zero, zip, nada. Anyone who believes that it does, does not understand the theory of evolution. In fact talk.origins even has a [link\|http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html\|FAQ] about this. Anyone who claims that it does either needs to learn more about evolution, or should stop trying to misrepresent science to serve their own agendas. Cheers, Ben
Post #17,966 by static 11/12/01 8:14:11 PM Reply	Yep. Precisely. In spades. Most definitely. Evolution does not preclude religious beliefs. But that does not prevent people (mis-)teaching otherwise. Are we finally on the same page? Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #17,969 by Ashton 11/12/01 8:27:33 PM Reply	"IWETHEY's Terrible Horde of Enigmatic Yammerers." Proof! below That one may have omniscience without the need for additional innovative attributes, ex-post-facto! above LRPD QED OBE CQD* * betcha don't know That one! :-)
Post #17,978 by ben_tilly 11/12/01 9:03:59 PM Reply	Quite possibly... If you understand that what people object to in Alabama's bill is the emphasis on literal Creationism, and not the question of whether evolution precludes being religious. And that is why everyone brought up the classic problems with fundamentalist Creationism. Remove Creationism from the picture, and make it clear that religious beliefs as a topic belongs outside of the teaching of how science works, and there is no conflict left. (It is as inappropriate for science to be the place to teach about religious belief as it would be to cite Bible class to predict a result in, say, Chemistry.) Cheers, Ben
Post #17,986 by static 11/12/01 10:25:53 PM Reply	Ah. Noted. Apart from the fact I got unfairly punished but not reading the original link properly. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

Troglodytes alive in Alabama. - (a6l6e6x) - (56) - Nov. 10, 2001, 05:11:44 PM EST

S'OK Massa: I'd like to see some stickers too - - (Ashton) - Nov. 10, 2001, 05:42:06 PM EST

I put one like that on my copy of Meyer's OOSC2 - (tablizer) - (1) - Nov. 10, 2001, 08:35:18 PM EST

Math got Gallileo[sic?] into trouble - (jb4) - Nov. 13, 2001, 08:46:41 AM EST

Whilst it remains controversial... - (static) - (47) - Nov. 11, 2001, 05:22:21 AM EST

But it's *not* controversial. - (pwhysall) - (4) - Nov. 11, 2001, 05:40:24 AM EST

Well, no it is, actually. - (static) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2001, 06:39:55 AM EST

No it isn't. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 11, 2001, 09:50:03 AM EST

Re: But it's *not* controversial. - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 11, 2001, 11:25:47 AM EST

Correction: - (tonytib) - Nov. 11, 2001, 12:51:50 PM EST

It is NOT controversial - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2001, 04:18:54 PM EST

It's a M/Soft kinda thing, isn't it? - (Ashton) - Nov. 11, 2001, 04:55:56 PM EST

And out of the woodwork they come! - (static) - (38) - Nov. 11, 2001, 05:59:10 PM EST

"Problems", sure, but that's not 'coz it's "controversial". - (CRConrad) - (26) - Nov. 11, 2001, 06:51:14 PM EST

I guess it's very POV specific. Makes it hard to agree. -NT - (static) - (23) - Nov. 11, 2001, 07:04:51 PM EST

Nope, it's quite simple, non-POV-specific, and universal: - (CRConrad) - (22) - Nov. 11, 2001, 07:13:53 PM EST

That is going too far - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Nov. 11, 2001, 08:43:03 PM EST

Sigh... Bend over backwards in your own posts; dont tack... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:16:49 AM EST

Reasonableness is in the eye of the beholder - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 07:11:11 PM EST

My take. - (Brandioch) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:18:11 PM EST

Creation as a scientific theory - (tablizer) - (17) - Nov. 12, 2001, 01:44:43 PM EST

But how does the Great Turtle move? - (Silverlock) - (16) - Nov. 12, 2001, 02:42:37 PM EST

Waiting for Val. - (Brandioch) - Nov. 12, 2001, 04:57:28 PM EST

In the beginning, there was this turtle... - (bepatient) - (13) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:34:38 PM EST

Or was it.. - (bepatient) - Nov. 12, 2001, 11:05:00 PM EST

I was hoping there was at least... - (jb4) - (11) - Nov. 13, 2001, 08:57:08 AM EST

Check your PBS listings for end November, early December - (bepatient) - (10) - Nov. 13, 2001, 12:18:17 PM EST

WWWWWOOOOWWWWW!! - (jb4) - (9) - Nov. 13, 2001, 01:44:28 PM EST

I already have it programmed to tape :-) - (bepatient) - (8) - Nov. 13, 2001, 02:58:29 PM EST

If ya think of it BeeP, please give a shout later.. - (Ashton) - (7) - Nov. 13, 2001, 06:28:17 PM EST

I shall try to remember... - (bepatient) - (6) - Nov. 14, 2001, 09:40:47 AM EST

"Deep in December, it's nice to remember..." - (CRConrad) - (2) - Nov. 14, 2001, 09:56:57 AM EST

Damn CRC.. - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 14, 2001, 06:25:06 PM EST

Afghan Hell, Afghan Hell, Bombing all the way... - (Meerkat) - Nov. 14, 2001, 07:01:17 PM EST

So.......when is it??? -NT - (jb4) - (2) - Nov. 15, 2001, 02:08:16 PM EST

Oh...alright... - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2001, 02:34:21 PM EST

Thank you...So marked! -NT - (jb4) - Nov. 15, 2001, 06:43:36 PM EST

The Turtle Moves! - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 12, 2001, 09:10:55 PM EST

I dunno, Sir Cyclic... - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 13, 2001, 08:52:34 AM EST

I can see you didn't see: "Brassed Off" !! (ie: wrong!) - (Ashton) - Nov. 13, 2001, 02:43:59 PM EST

Better asked, how can I put this? - (ben_tilly) - (10) - Nov. 11, 2001, 09:04:38 PM EST

Well there is a way for the earth to be new - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2001, 09:47:44 PM EST

Every new toy is made out of old stuff. :-) - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 11, 2001, 11:05:51 PM EST

Somewhat OT: world flood - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 05:43:10 AM EST

There are no shortage of candidates... - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 12, 2001, 06:24:38 AM EST

You're arguing the wrong point. - (static) - (5) - Nov. 12, 2001, 07:38:10 PM EST

Some of the conclusions that *what* arrives at? - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:05:18 PM EST

Yep. Precisely. In spades. Most definitely. - (static) - (3) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:14:11 PM EST

"IWETHEY's Terrible Horde of Enigmatic Yammerers." Proof! - (Ashton) - Nov. 12, 2001, 08:27:33 PM EST

Quite possibly... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 12, 2001, 09:03:59 PM EST

Ah. Noted. - (static) - Nov. 12, 2001, 10:25:53 PM EST

Let's take a different tack... - (Another Scott) - Nov. 12, 2001, 12:50:06 AM EST

Agreement from the Annals of Improbable Research - (drewk) - (4) - Nov. 16, 2001, 01:33:17 PM EST

OT for Drew - (Silverlock) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2001, 01:57:24 PM EST

Sure - (drewk) - (2) - Nov. 16, 2001, 02:04:49 PM EST

Not a size problem - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2001, 02:18:59 PM EST

It's just forwarding - (drewk) - Nov. 19, 2001, 11:20:22 AM EST

Bestowing a cruddy-green patina to this over-polished line of deductive reasoning.
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