Post #16,520
11/4/01 9:04:06 PM
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Neither; it sounds like a German (& Scandinavian) a-umlaut.
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Post #16,525
11/4/01 9:44:26 PM
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Er, no.
'ae' in Latin sounds like a long 'i'.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,551
11/5/01 3:00:16 AM
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ObOb: "That depends..."
Scott the first: 'ae' in Latin sounds like a long 'i'. ...in this case, that depends on what you mean by "like a long 'i'." Not as the letter 'i' is pronounced in any sensible language, no. Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #16,570
11/5/01 9:06:13 AM
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Re: ObOb: "That depends..."
Long 'i' as rhymes with 'sky', 'pie', 'rye', 'my', etc.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,580
11/5/01 10:08:45 AM
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Yup - Q. E. (that's *two* fscking sounds!) D...
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Post #16,582
11/5/01 10:10:42 AM
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Not in *my* language it isn't.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,586
11/5/01 10:22:16 AM
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You one of them thar Southerners...?
...Or whatever group it is that (are supposed to) say "Mah Aah, the Skah is looking maahty faahn today"? First I'd heard of it, if that's so...
You might not have *noticed* it yourself, but if you speaka da Engrish like the overwhelming majority of Engrish-speakahs do, then the vowelly sound in "my", "eye", and "sky" *is* a diphtong (not a dip-thong, BTW :-) -- 'di-' as in 'two', 'coz it's two vowels where the first sort of glides over into the second.
No wonder you're handicapped, though: Only Engrish is so weird as to regularly spell diphtongs with a single letter, and single vowel sounds with two letters. (Contrast 'mine' -- 'mean', 'line' -- 'lean', etc.) Not even French is quite as fucked-up, AFAICS.
Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #16,590
11/5/01 10:31:33 AM
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No.
And regardless of whether it's pronounced as one vowel or a diphtong, all of the words I listed use the same "i" sound.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,591
11/5/01 10:38:15 AM
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s/sound/sounds/
When you're talking about pronounciation, it's stupid to call a diphtong "_A_ sound", or to use the single letter 'i' to spell it, thass'all I'm saying.
'Coz it's TWO _sounds_; that's what makes it a di-phtong.
Absent a fhunetikl alfabett with upside-down e's and stuff, better use "Eye", or two thirds of it, or something.
Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #16,594
11/5/01 10:58:29 AM
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Whatever.
Sometimes you are too pedantic for words, Christian. :-)
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,669
11/5/01 4:29:27 PM
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Was that a dipth-pun?
Dunno what sorta mumblers you hang out with, Scott - but NoOne I've ever heard (who's been anywhere near that Sea) would pronounce,
\ufffdgean "Eye-gee-an".. ih-gean' far more likely, as the ac-cent' is on the second syl-lab'-le in any event. Less'n you calls them Italians 'Eye-T's' too (?) or maybe 'Eye-raq' like our Presyudent n'stuff.
{s-ighh'}
YAN punctilious proselytizer puncturing Popinjay persiflage, pal.
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Post #16,671
11/5/01 4:37:13 PM
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Er, that's kinda my point, Asthon.
The LATIN pronunciation of "ae" is the same as how English speakers say "sky" or "mine".
The ENGLISH pronuciation of "Aegean" is, as the dictionaries said, "ih", not "eye".
My point to you being that you can't necessarily use an English dictionary to get the Latin pronunciation of a diphthong.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,681
11/5/01 4:50:12 PM
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Well.. not so sure
Where is the need for *changing* (when speakin Engrish) the Actual Name-sound of a place - just for the &*%#^$# arbitrariness of that-all?
Like.. Vallejo, Santa Clara, Mexico ...
Except sloth? The Actual Name-sound is never a *wrong* sound! Haven't 'we' better things to do than to teach Bowdlerized replacements - to assure being snickered-at, by anyone who ever left Passaic?
(Say even.. one o' them I-Wrack-EEs who might visit and not recognize her own country being 'named')
Never mind. I guess I need more ed-dja-Kay'-shun, so I can run for orifice someday.
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Post #16,738
11/5/01 7:47:42 PM
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I dont' particularly care for it either.
Just making my point.
Hell, I live about 5 miles from a place called "Lake Orion", pronounced "OR-ee-un".
Drives me nuts.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #16,741
11/5/01 8:36:12 PM
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Heh.. wait'll ya hear 'Cholmondeley' said in Murican
(Of course the Mother country has lots o' these chestnuts, startin with Worcestershire)
It's 'Chumley' !!
..it's a losin' battle hereabouts, nowadays - even without hAxoR :[
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