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Post #159,341 by folkert 6/10/04 10:37:28 AM Reply	Especially if... You send the Drill Sergeant a letter telling of her exploits before she was shipped. OH, BTW, send here some cookies, chocolates in a Foo-Foo box and a gushy "Hope they are treating you OK!" Card. Make sure there is lace and Pastel Colors abound. Let us know if she likes the "Homemade 'Care' Package" Of course, you realize she will never forget your generosity. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I've decided to become a perfectionist. That way I'll have more reasons to hate people. Your recycled electrons annoy me. Please use new electrons.
Post #159,342 by boxley 6/10/04 10:39:22 AM Reply	you a baaad man Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,345 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 10:49:00 AM Reply	If I wasn't the responsible parent That is soooo tempting. But, as a responsible parent, I cannot hold grudges, nor attempt to "get even". Once punishment has been meted out, all's forgotten (unless there is a repeat "performance"). Thinking back on my basic, that would be a fitting "reward".
Post #159,348 by folkert 6/10/04 11:03:18 AM Reply	When you find out Her mailing addy, let me know!!! I'll be sure to include those "must haves" in a care package. As a concerned IWETHEY member, anything to help out you know. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I've decided to become a perfectionist. That way I'll have more reasons to hate people. Your recycled electrons annoy me. Please use new electrons.
Post #159,450 by deSitter 6/10/04 11:07:18 PM Reply	Re: When you find out I wouldn't get involved. -drl
Post #159,568 by folkert 6/11/04 12:44:59 PM Reply	No need to get in my knickers. I'd only send a care package and not a telling of the war-stories. And, I fergets, When was your boot camp? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* We got another Mass Exodus Doorway Jam.
Post #159,356 by broomberg 6/10/04 12:32:55 PM Reply	Repeat? Will she be 18 the next time she sees you? You are going to have to accept that this relationship is changed. Either treat her as an adult who happens to be a guest at your house, or you will never have a civil time with her again. This means she comes and goes at will, and sleeps with whoever she wants. If she needs money, you can attempt to negotiate, but don't ever expect to enfore your moraility on her again.
Post #159,371 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 2:02:08 PM Reply	Enforced morality There is such a thing as "house rules" and parental respect. If she doesn't want to obey house rules (no sex in our house, let us know where she is going and when to expect her return, etc) then she can move out. She has already played that threat. I told her "go ahead". I'm used to all of the girls dis'n me. However, when they start on their own mom, that's too far. They can make those statements from their own residence, not ours.
Post #159,380 by broomberg 6/10/04 3:37:21 PM Reply	You lied You've already said that you've caught them multiple times. Yet they still live there. Which in turn means you really would like them to hide it better. Which means you would prefer to be lied to then have direct and honest conversations. We've just crossed into Ashton's Crazy Aunt Martha. Everyone knows she's there, but polite company would not discuss her.
Post #159,391 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 4:44:23 PM Reply	Not quite crazy We have had the frank open discussion about what teenage boys want and what that causes and could lead into. And I have offered birth control options. Mom lives in the fantasy world where her daughters would never do that. So the house rule is NO SEX. When boyfriend is here, doors must be open. Since my wife is handicapped and cannot easily negotiate the stairs, it's up to me to "make the rounds". I have never caught them in "the act", just teenage fumbling and groping. His hands under her clothing, her hands grabbing his crotch, things like that. Pisses the daughter off every time she "gets caught". Just trying to preserve mom's fantasy.
Post #159,395 by dmarker 6/10/04 4:57:23 PM 6/10/04 4:59:44 PM Reply	I support you on the rules ... Did same with my 3 girls only to find out the oldest had obeyed rules but once she was home & we were asleep, had climbed out her window & was off. We never knew. Only found out many years later. Seems that head-strong girls at that age can be damned head-strong. That daughter is now a mom with 5 of her own :-) one coming up to same age she was when she did her exploring. Doug M (you have double my sympathy re being step da) _________________________________________________________ "Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!". -- Leonardo Da Vinci Edited by dmarker June 10, 2004, 04:59:44 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #159,404 by inthane-chan 6/10/04 5:19:21 PM Reply	Oh, boy. Susan is about as headstrong as they get. So is my mom. I hope there's some submissive genes somewhere in there that get expressed in any daughters I might have... :P Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #159,386 by ben_tilly 6/10/04 4:22:29 PM Reply	You forgot to include the essentials An old teddy bear and her "favorite underwear". Make sure that the underwear is either very frilly or says something really syrupy on it. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #159,387 by drewk 6/10/04 4:26:11 PM Reply	Lipstick kiss mark on the seal -- and "s,w.a.k." === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #159,388 by pwhysall 6/10/04 4:26:50 PM Reply	Lucky pants! Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #159,393 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 4:48:40 PM Reply	Ben, have you SEEN teenage girl underwear lately? I mean without the microscope? Ain't any room for any writing. Basically a piece of elastic with a thread from front to back. No, they haven't "modeled" for me, they just leave all their clean laundry either in the dryer or on top of the dryer. Took me a while to accept that my daughters were actually wearing clothing like that.
Post #159,396 by admin 6/10/04 5:01:38 PM Reply	The word is "thong". And for every distressed father, there are a hundred guys thanking their lucky stars that this is the fashion... ;-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #159,400 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 5:09:28 PM Reply	I used "underwear" 'cuz Ben did. I KNOW the word And all the other feminine items required for raising daughters. As stated, my wife is handicapped, so guess who gets to do the shopping. Heaven help me if I bring home the wrong size/brand. Not many men shopping in those aisles. ;-> And about the thongs, before the daughters got part-time jobs, and their own clothing money, it was "Dad (or Joe from step-daughters), can I get these?" as they held up a wispy piece of material that sufficed as "underwear". FWIW, my wife wears them also, and, therefore, I am a fan of them, just NOT on my daughters. :-)
Post #159,401 by admin 6/10/04 5:11:53 PM Reply	:-D Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #159,405 by inthane-chan 6/10/04 5:19:31 PM Reply	Butt floss. Bah. I'm sorry, but I don't like hershey streaks on my SO's undies. Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #159,415 by boxley 6/10/04 6:03:47 PM Reply	then dont wear em! Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,419 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 6:06:29 PM Reply	You mean she doesn't wipe? eeyew. ;-j
Post #159,399 by drewk 6/10/04 5:08:34 PM Reply	STOP THAT! I have two little girls. I hope to have at least 10 more years before I have to think about that. Don't make me start early. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #159,402 by admin 6/10/04 5:14:02 PM Reply	Yer DOOOOOOOOOOMED! /me is very glad he has two boys... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #159,409 by drewk 6/10/04 5:27:10 PM Reply	Keep 'em away, ya hear!? === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #159,477 by mmoffitt 6/11/04 12:06:33 AM Reply	no SHIT! I have 13 year old and a 12 year old. I am IN HELL. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.
Post #159,406 by jbrabeck 6/10/04 5:21:24 PM Reply	If they are 2 or under, you have 10 years. 12 - 14 is starting time for thongs, now-a-days. Who knows, in 10 years we could either have a return to the "grandma" underwear¹ or "advance" to spray on "clothing" ¹Daughters were talking about what underwear was allowed at basic training. In front of all the adults, including grandma. When the oldest made the statement "only grandma underwear". I, and the girls, knew exactly what was meant and what was excluded. Older adults wanted to know what "grandma" underwear was. IOW not thongs, hicut, bikini, etc. Only the "Sears all white cotton".
Post #159,410 by drewk 6/10/04 5:28:01 PM Reply	4 in July, 2 in January === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #159,411 by ben_tilly 6/10/04 5:29:34 PM Reply	And this is a problem? It just adds some peer pressure and causes her friends to mock her. Or you could go with the frilly option. Thongs with lots of lace. Looks really pretty. :-) Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #159,523 by jbrabeck 6/11/04 7:00:23 AM Reply	I was thinking about your suggestion Sending those items, shipped as stated to a guy in basic training would have the desired effect. Razzed by all the other guys. However, sending them to a girl in basic could (would) backfire. Remember we're talking about females here. Pretty items, gushy cards, cookies.... "awwww, that's sweet". "How nice of your dad". Probably get the same result if I sent a "masculine" package. So, on second thought, good idea, won't work.

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