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Post #157,525 by Ashton 5/29/04 3:54:53 AM Reply	There may also be (depending on age of this relic) A couple of pins to short, to zero the CMOS "officially", intended for use before initial fire-up of the board. Then usually - you use same shorting block to reconnect to the (new) battery. Mostly - I think these are labelled, near battery carrier and silk-screened "short" or such-like. I've never experimented to confirm, as alleged -- that this step is necessary, so that next boot with battery renewed - properly loads BIOS defaults. But it can't hoit. Ashton (I used to pull most old-style CMOS Varta-like batts and install appropriate AA-cell carriers. EZ, cheap, only need do it once) But if yours is That old -
Post #157,562 by Andrew Grygus 5/29/04 2:47:50 PM Reply	There almost always is. This jumper is to discharge CMOS with the battery in - but it's still advised to unplug the power supply cables to the motherboard. Without the jumper (or unable to find it) you have to remove the battery and disconnect the power supply cables (even with the wall cord unplugged, a powersupply may have enough residual voltage to keep CMOS alive for as much as half an hour). Discharging the CMOS will sometimes return an insane computer to normal. Apparently there's important stuff in there the CMOS setup program doesn't touch. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #157,680 by Ashton 5/30/04 7:09:48 AM Reply	About those AAs Noted your comment re heat, falling out. Not claiming serendipity, but.. I always mounted mine outside the case, at back. Perhaps not the best solution in an office, but seemed 'cool'. All batteries like cool. Thanks re the reset - hadn't occurred that there could be junk mem locations not automatically rewritten from BIOS menu. So much not to know..

Possible (or worth it) to change a motherboard battery? - (drewk) - (21) - May 28, 2004, 07:44:13 AM EDT

All depends on the motherboard I guess - (Meerkat) - (1) - May 28, 2004, 07:59:29 AM EDT

Thanks, will check tonight (unless Greg remembers) -NT - (drewk) - May 28, 2004, 09:52:36 AM EDT

NTP configgering - (Yendor) - (1) - May 28, 2004, 08:29:26 AM EDT

Pretty sure I tried that - (drewk) - May 28, 2004, 09:53:27 AM EDT

get list of servers, ntptimeset -s -NT - (deSitter) - May 28, 2004, 10:17:17 AM EDT

Nearly all motherboards today . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - May 28, 2004, 01:58:51 PM EDT

Get the battery out, as Andrew says, and... - (a6l6e6x) - May 28, 2004, 02:40:10 PM EDT

Older motherboards - (orion) - (8) - May 29, 2004, 04:14:59 PM EDT

Ripped those AA clips out any time I saw one.. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - May 29, 2004, 05:04:58 PM EDT

That subdirectory factoid amazes computer people - (ben_tilly) - (6) - May 29, 2004, 05:13:10 PM EDT

Even More amazing, a story I eaves dropped on the bus this - (boxley) - (4) - May 29, 2004, 06:39:12 PM EDT

Let her have her delusions - (orion) - (3) - May 29, 2004, 08:24:44 PM EDT

'DEB' is no less offensive just coz someone else invented it - (Meerkat) - (2) - May 29, 2004, 08:38:34 PM EDT

I apoligize then - (orion) - May 29, 2004, 08:46:20 PM EDT

How the term DEB came about (new thread) - (orion) - May 30, 2004, 01:38:31 AM EDT

Re: That subdirectory factoid amazes computer people - (deSitter) - May 30, 2004, 02:08:34 AM EDT

Should be a Battery similar to - (folkert) - (1) - May 28, 2004, 07:30:47 PM EDT

Cool, will be trying both (battery and pool.ntp) -NT - (drewk) - May 29, 2004, 11:06:30 AM EDT

There may also be - (Ashton) - (2) - May 29, 2004, 03:54:53 AM EDT

There almost always is. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - May 29, 2004, 02:47:50 PM EDT

About those AAs - (Ashton) - May 30, 2004, 07:09:48 AM EDT

May cause dizziness, rash, diarrhea, difficulty in breathing, loss of consciousness, extreme pain, bloody stools, flaccidity, amputation, blindness, suicidal thoughts, insanity, lesions, boils, bubonic plague, anal warts, vomiting up toads and lizards, violent convulsions, death, and likely poltergeist activity.
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