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New ummm... well... I... err... hmm... amaz...
/me picks up his jaw...

Norm, I cannot tell you how^W^W^W^W^W^W

I just don't quite^W^W^W^W

*FBOG*

You chime in and mess with my current read on the World.

Congratulations Norm, you for the time being are out of my TWIT/CSS File.

This has completely taken me by surprise.

You actually GOT and UNDERSTOOD the message trying to be relayed to Karsten.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

Indeed my world has been stood on ear.
New Re: ummm... well... I... err... hmm... amaz...
He's changed a lot, Greg. I've watched it happen.

I don't completely get the entire situation, but I get the concept and I get the message being relayed, even if I don't understand all the technical details about mailing lists and other issues with that.

I see simply that someone made a command decision on their own without consulting the other Admins, and I consider that inconsiderate and wrong, as well as unfair to whomever the decision was about. Being a victim of that myself once, I completely relate to that part.

Nightowl >8#
"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

Comment by Nightowl
New Dude...
Give the boy a break!

(Oh,...I guess you have...!)

Norm's posts of late have been much more focused, cogent, and on target. FWIW, I'm pleased that the spirit of reconcilliation has grabbed you, and you're willing to give Norm another reading. IMHO, he deserves it.

Now Marlowe, on the other hand,...........
jb4
"There are two ways for you to have lower Prescription-drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper ... or you can elect me President."
John Kerry
New I owe it all to my college class
I am learning how to read better and study better and focus better. I am taking a general studies class at the University of Phoenix and learning how to learn all over again. My doctor suggested it for me to help me out with my mental problems. I spend 40 hours a week dedicated to the class, 5 hours for class time, 5 hours for team time, and 30 hours for reading, studying, writing papers, research, and other misc stuff. Only one class at a time, but 5 weeks for that class in an accelerated learning. I just got back my first writing paper and got a 9 out of 10 on it, 90% is the most I've gotten on a written paper. Most of the grade was for critical thinking, flow, and creativity. All the hours I spend at it stress me out, but so far I am managing. If I last two years, I get a bachalor's degree in Business Management. If not, at least I learn something that might help me, and I need all the help I can get. :)



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New bloody Good Show, Norman!
As you seem to be finding out.. sometimes the "class content" doesn't matter at all.. but the focussed (A)ttention appears to be exactly what the (chemistry of the) neurons Need to make new pathways. Don't have to know anything about their 'chemistry' beyond: It Works.

(This I have also personally verified to be similar re "how the body moves" - something most of us stopped paying attention-to after about 3 yo.. to our detriment. But that's Another thread sometime)

Hang in there,

Ashton
New Well done Norm
My first response to one of your posts in quite a while. I had given up on you. Glad to see I was wrong to have done so. Continue with this. It seems to be working.
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New Starting from scratch?
If I last two years, I get a bachalor's degree in Business Management.
Is that including prior credits from an incomplete degree? Or is that from ground zero to a degree in two years? If it's the latter, I might have to look into that.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
New I have an Associates Degree in Data Processing
but only half the credits transfered because my classes happened 13 years ago. Most of the DP classes are electives now or no longer taught. I am going for a Business Management degree, so they don't matter anyway.

Check out [link|http://www.phoenix.edu/|http://www.phoenix.edu/] for more info. That is where I go. They have 5 hours classes, once a week, for five weeks at a time. If you are starting from scratch, you may want to go to a Community College and take some CLEP exams and quiz out of the Math, Science, English, Critical Thinking, etc classes. Then apply at Phoenix. Usually the UOP is there for people returning to college that have some credits already. Almost everyone that goes there is working, few like me are out of work. They also have an option for online classes, and Flexnet classes that meet a few weeks and are online the rest.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New Thanks, may try to work it into my schedule
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
New Irony alert
Greg wrote:

You actually GOT and UNDERSTOOD the message trying to be relayed to Karsten.

Would that be the very same message that you far, far more significantly ignored in [link|http://www.vtluug.org/pipermail/iwe/2003-November/001092.html|posting malign gossip that disclosed confidential e-mail discussion] about Karsten's rift with Nick Petreley?

That's only a small case of needed-apology compared to those other four clowns (who unlike you went berzerk), in my view, but the hypocrisy you're displaying rankles.

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
New Irony...
How the fuck are you sure I didn't know about it from other sources... I remember the event.

I was just reminded of it. By your comments Karsten.

If you want to start this Rick Go some where else and masturbate.

And Anyway, if it WAS a confidential e-mail discussion... HOW the FUCK do you know it. Other than Karsten Forwarding it to You, Ashton and Peter. Well since the bag is out you want I should tell them the rest of the story then?

And Karsten, you did... DID indeed tell Every fucking body about your Rift with Nicholas Peterely.

And once again I re-iterate -- RICK Go masturbate somewhere else. And I don't want you to miss the menaing here. Go away. And that is NOT a request.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
New Irony, indeed.
Greg wrote:

if it WAS a confidential e-mail discussion....

Which it was.

HOW the FUCK do you know it.

Because -- as you already know -- Karsten Cc'd me on the mail where he deplored your abuse of it. QED.

How the fuck are you sure I didn't know about it from other sources?

I call bullshit on your implication, whereby you are currently attempting to excuse the breach of trust inherent in that piece of malicious gossip: Feel free to show us a non-confidential source where one might previously have read that Karsten "hasn't spoken/had contact with to Nicolas Petreley in Years [sic], because of a public dressing down". Otherwise, have fun stewing in hypocrisy.

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
New Nope... I am not making an attempt.
As you will see, IF YOU CAN READ, on the mailing list.

I did apologize for that infraction.

Go gnaw on your own suet. And Quit Stirring up this bad soup.

Go do your Mental Masturbation elsewhere.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
New Re: Nope... I am not making an attempt.
Greg wrote:

As you will see, IF YOU CAN READ, on the mailing list.

Came to my attention after my forum post. I am, of course, dropping that point, given your mailing list comment.

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
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