Actually, watching the webservices crowd define their stuff is like reliving the CORBA stuff. Next we'll need authentication, then transactions....

Mind you - I invented SOAP messaging with attachements (later polished up and claimed by MS) to solve problems with document processing submissions while at eTranslate. I still think the attachment solution was good, but the SOAP format itself is ridiculous overkill. Plus the crowd that was early adopters were every bit as pig headed as a C++ elitist in the early 90's.