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Post #113,482
by Nightowl
8/11/03 2:32:46 PM
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Yep, I relate to that. I used to work for McDonnell Douglas, and it was back when they were trying to build the B-12 Stealth Bomber (I hope that's the right name, they kept changing it).

Most of the departments didn't know what the other departments were doing. I had a Top-Secret security clearance, and I was like one of the only people who knew EVERY part number for the plane, because I had to put together the files to give the designers and graphic people and sheet metal people the plans to put the parts together.

They made me make changes daily, first use this many bolts, no, this many, no this many. Change this shape of this wing, etc. I think the stupid plane failed because no one could decide how to build it. LOL!

Nightowl >8#
"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

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Post #113,484
by orion
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8/11/03 2:46:14 PM
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Usually the higher ups like the Generals or the Managers knew everything about the project and could co-ordinate the workers into working on the fragments that made up the project.

The law firm I worked at was a lot worse than that, I was given minimual details, so vauge that even Sherlock Holmes couldn't figure them out. When I asked coworkers they usually gave me a "I dunno" answer and shrugged their shoulders, and many of them were in meetings about it that I was not invited to. So it took some extra thinking and guesswork to get the job done, but a lot slower than had I actually had the full details that I needed to get the job done.

My last job was with a small business that had virtually no rules or guidelines for programming, just a coworker who called me "An idiot" when my programming style was not the same as hers. She also kept changing the database column and table names, so it made my job harder. We went from Access to SQL Server, so I removed the spaces in the table and column names to keep compatability, but she made me change them back. The owner of the company kept telling her that we were coworkers, but she continued to be bossy right up to the day I was let go. She was verbally abusive, she ignored what I suggested for the programs, and about three other coworkers had tried to work with her before developing software, and quit and went back to their old jobs.
     iwethey.employed++ - (ben_tilly) - (51) - Aug. 6, 2003, 05:55:24 PM EDT
         Better employment terms as well, I trust? - (admin) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2003, 05:56:47 PM EDT
             That's guaranteed by state law :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:24:41 PM EDT
         Re: iwethey.employed++ - (Nightowl) - (2) - Aug. 6, 2003, 05:59:01 PM EDT
             I won't be back in force for a bit... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:26:22 PM EDT
                 Hey Ben ( was Re: I won't be back in force for a bit...) (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:43:27 PM EDT
         *Cheer* -NT - (imric) - Aug. 6, 2003, 05:59:37 PM EDT
         havnt been to Santa Monica in a while - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2003, 06:06:02 PM EDT
             traffic - (tablizer) - Sept. 1, 2003, 09:43:57 PM EDT
         very cool...congrats! -NT - (slugbug) - Aug. 6, 2003, 06:06:20 PM EDT
         Woo! - (Yendor) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2003, 06:14:35 PM EDT
             Looks that way. :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:30:07 PM EDT
         Congrats! - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 6, 2003, 06:15:19 PM EDT
         And ... it's not NYC! Now to see about the West Coast bash -NT - (drewk) - Aug. 6, 2003, 06:54:42 PM EDT
         Great news, Ben! Good luck with it! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 6, 2003, 07:59:53 PM EDT
         Congrats! - (Another Scott) - Aug. 6, 2003, 08:05:08 PM EDT
         Rilly nice to see ++ signs around. Luck with the pad hunt -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 6, 2003, 08:29:45 PM EDT
         Re: iwethey.employed++ - (deSitter) - (6) - Aug. 6, 2003, 09:20:03 PM EDT
             Re: My hometown. The People's Republic? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - Aug. 6, 2003, 10:05:29 PM EDT
                 Re: My hometown. The People's Republic? :) - (deSitter) - (4) - Aug. 6, 2003, 10:14:16 PM EDT
                     Re: The People's Republic. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2003, 10:26:27 PM EDT
                         Neat :) - (deSitter) - Aug. 6, 2003, 10:39:26 PM EDT
                     Douglas? When? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 27, 2003, 05:19:42 PM EDT
                         Re: Douglas? When? - (deSitter) - Aug. 27, 2003, 06:17:55 PM EDT
         Congratulations on your new position - (cforde) - (2) - Aug. 6, 2003, 10:03:48 PM EDT
             And that's with one foot out the window... -NT - (admin) - Aug. 7, 2003, 12:13:57 AM EDT
             Don't remind me... -NT - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:29:35 PM EDT
         Fine as wine. - (Silverlock) - Aug. 7, 2003, 09:18:34 AM EDT
         Wow, that was fast! - (static) - (6) - Aug. 7, 2003, 09:23:04 AM EDT
             Perl is job security - (deSitter) - (5) - Aug. 7, 2003, 09:33:42 AM EDT
                 Maybe I should learn it - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:41:47 AM EDT
                     It sucks. - (admin) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2003, 11:48:30 AM EDT
                         Yabut... - (Yendor) - Aug. 7, 2003, 12:31:32 PM EDT
                 And are known to be good... - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 7, 2003, 03:34:58 PM EDT
                 My new boss just noticed that line in my resume.... - (mhuber) - Aug. 7, 2003, 11:09:14 PM EDT
         Tops one! -NT - (Meerkat) - Aug. 7, 2003, 09:44:48 AM EDT
         What & Where? - (broomberg) - (14) - Aug. 9, 2003, 08:56:41 PM EDT
             Partial answers - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Aug. 10, 2003, 03:16:08 AM EDT
                 No prob - (broomberg) - Aug. 10, 2003, 10:52:09 AM EDT
                 Suspicion - (drewk) - (11) - Aug. 11, 2003, 01:49:45 PM EDT
                     Re: Suspicion - (Nightowl) - (3) - Aug. 11, 2003, 01:59:03 PM EDT
                         Ummm - tilt. - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2003, 06:55:06 PM EDT
                             Re: Ummm - tilt. - (Nightowl) - Aug. 11, 2003, 06:38:37 PM EDT
                             I forgot most of what I knew - (orion) - Aug. 11, 2003, 10:21:00 PM EDT
                     Military secrecy - (orion) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2003, 02:28:03 PM EDT
                         Re: Military secrecy - (Nightowl) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2003, 02:32:46 PM EDT
                             Re: Military secrecy - (orion) - Aug. 11, 2003, 02:46:14 PM EDT
                     financial and insurance industries are also quiet - (boxley) - Aug. 11, 2003, 05:48:34 PM EDT
                     Umm... - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2003, 02:58:35 AM EDT
                         I do, and will -NT - (drewk) - Aug. 14, 2003, 08:15:54 AM EDT
                         I remember too. -NT - (static) - Aug. 15, 2003, 08:10:45 AM EDT
         Re: iwethey.employed++ - (qstephens) - Aug. 27, 2003, 02:51:32 PM EDT

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