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New Re: Suspicion
Military secrecy tends to come with a plausible cover story. Unless you're going to be writing control software for Los Alamos, in which case military and civilian use tends to overlap somewhat.


Yep, Los Alamos employs both civilian and military, and they do overlap at times. But there is still a high level of secrecy. My husband was working there once with a high security clearance. His dad still works for the lab, albeit now from home, but he also has certain security standards to uphold. And his mom and stepmom also work there. I don't know what his stepmom does, but his mom is in explosives, and she is almost NEVER allowed to tell us what she is up to. ;)

And I'm speaking from experience. I know all these people, and get the info firsthand. In fact, when the Lee thing exploded, it scared some of his family because they not only knew him, they worked with him. Fortunately, the investigation into John's family's background turned up nothing connecting them in the spying issue.

Nightowl >8#

"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

Comment by Nightowl
New Ummm - tilt.
First, I think it's likely still the case that - revealing {the fact? of} one's "high" security status - is itself a No-No. For obv. reasons - whom shall we snatch today and subject to our Revealed-Truth Merck\ufffd serum? We from Evull Oceania...

Implying that one who is/was possessed of (possessed-by?) such 'credentials' is both an intimate AND a confidante! of certain factoids - sets one up for a visit from a spookish (as opposed to a bookish) type. (And that 'ol Constitution ain't around anymore - to ensure a modicum of common sense - Remember? PATRIOT-I repealed a fair part; wait'll ya see PATRIOT-II)

As In WW-II:
Loose Lips Sink Ships cha cha cha

ie knowing who Has the Seecruts can be.. as valuable as the 'secrets', in the brave New PharmChem World we raced so willingly, naively to Embrace, Extend and [many know the Next word].
(But You don't:) 'Extinguish' - it's a Billy Gates Microsoftian sort of concept. Get it?

This: especially! in a time of spoon-fed Daily Paranoia - the stuff of keeping the massively-disinterested public distracted, from ever looking very closely at - The Neoconmen Behind that Curtain.. y'know?

ie - maybe you wanna appeal to Scott to sorta delete the above?
Edit: AND This One too.


Just a thought,

Ashton
ex-LBL - badge color unstated.
(I ain't afeared - I just don't really much care about the Insider cachet Game)
Or in the (now approximate) words of one Tat San / Tan Sat(?)

The Two Important rules for success in life:
1) Never tell everything you know
Expand Edited by Ashton Aug. 11, 2003, 06:55:06 PM EDT
New Re: Ummm - tilt.
Ah. Regarding Los Alamos, I never said who the people are, thus no one knows. You don't know my real name, and you don't know theirs. Plus, John worked there so long ago it is a mute point. But Scott can delete it if he thinks he should.

As for my post about the B-12, also Scott can delete it if he thinks he should, but since the B-12 never flew, was never built, and etc, all secrecy surrounding it ended. Plus, all I ever knew was the part numbers, not much help to anyone there.

Nightowl >8#
"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

Comment by Nightowl
Expand Edited by Nightowl Aug. 11, 2003, 06:38:37 PM EDT
New I forgot most of what I knew
and what I knew is so outdated now. Even if I could remember the secrets they told me, they would be useless in modern times.

Anyone who tries to get secrets out of me, gets that quote from the movie "1941" by Slim Pickens, "You ain't getting sh*t outta me, I've been constapated for weeks and there aren't a dang thing you can do about it!"
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