Universal suffrage - you asked for it, you got it

Post #111,932 by deSitter 7/29/03 8:49:38 PM Reply	Universal suffrage - you asked for it, you got it -drl
Post #111,950 by rcareaga 7/29/03 10:29:12 PM Reply	Universal suffrage - asked for; got--calling you on this Do you maintain that the mindlessness cited above is particular to or remotely unique to women voters? Pray do not be coy with us: do you wish, as my 81 year-old pater does, to withdraw the franchise from the gentle sex? You may speak frankly in this almost exclusively masculine forum (nightowl's reproaches--not that the poor thing would figure it out, or speak up if she did--do not, after all, form the stuff of our rhetorical nightmares). If it's not women, do you deplore extension of the vote to the lesser races? To the non-propertied? Do. Tell. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #111,973 by deSitter 7/30/03 12:28:42 AM 7/30/03 12:31:46 AM Reply	Yes Most women have no business voting. A tiny fraction more of men have any business voting. No one who cannot recite from memory basic facts of civics and history should be allowed to choose if we ALL live under a police state or no. Pass a test, get a vote. Almost all women would fail. Almost all men would fail as well, but I'm confident a small and decisive majority of men would win out, and save the world for honestly won freedom. Women are natural collectivists and to be feared. It is suicide to allow idiots to vote. Most women are idiots. The female idiots are somehow much more intolerable than the male ones. -drl Edited by deSitter July 30, 2003, 12:31:46 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #111,979 by orion 7/30/03 2:19:47 AM Reply	If you studied you must have learned that voting is a right that everyone has. Even idiots have the right to vote. We should help them learn more about political issues and history and civics so they become less of an idiot. In our society only a small percentage of the population votes, unless it is a major election. It is also a duty to vote, as a citizen. In some countries, like Thailand, it is against the law not to vote and violators may get thrown in jail or fined. I do not see most women as idiots, I just see them as thinking different than most men. They may have different issues they vote on or consider than most men do. Women have fought for the right to vote, and they got it. The main key is educating the people out there who are uninformed on political, historical, and civic matters so that we get better voters. I wouldn't call them idiots, just uninformed. After all, everyone has a potential they haven't reached yet.
Post #111,980 by Ashton 7/30/03 2:38:08 AM Reply	Orion: go to your room. Have a cookie.
Post #112,037 by cwbrenn 7/30/03 11:59:45 AM Reply	... the hell is YOUR problem? Not a fucking thing wrong with Orion's post. On topic, valid response to desitter. Knee-jerking a bit much this morning, old bean? "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #112,039 by folkert 7/30/03 12:02:29 PM Reply	No... He just wants certain unamed people to refrain from "posting by numbers" -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] You are as dazzling as a pregnant cow attired in electrical sockets.
Post #112,047 by cwbrenn 7/30/03 12:33:14 PM Reply	Christ, we've got the forum police now. Nevermind. I guess I don't spend enough time here to give a damn anyway. Gee... this really [b]is[/b] a microcosm of american politcs! "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #112,053 by folkert 7/30/03 12:52:58 PM Reply	Naw Chris... Just that Ashton has finally had his "limit" over ran with his dribble... even IF it is not dribble. I use CSS to ignore (the unamed poster) now. So I only post to him to taunt him now. And DAMMIT yes... we have Forum police... considering HOW MUCH SHITTING all over the place he has done before... HERE and on twiki and most other forums he frequents. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] The glow of your teeth exudes the courage of raw liver.
Post #112,050 by bepatient 7/30/03 12:35:51 PM Reply	And >that< is really funny. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #112,043 by bepatient 7/30/03 12:15:03 PM Reply	Agree. Uncalled for...regardless. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #112,002 by hnick 7/30/03 7:26:00 AM Reply	Be careful of what you wish for, you might get it... I could see our current regime instituting voting tests (just to weed out terrorists, of course. And idiots. And the uninformed. And those who don't agree with the agenda. And ...) As a side note, you should probably not discuss, face to face, your views of female voting with my wife. You would probably require DNA analysis to prove your masculinity afterward. You really seem to have an unfortunate history with women. I don't get it. After high school (no longer dating strictly for sex) almost all of the women I had any real relationships with were intelligent, informed, and opinionated. Maybe you are doing something to attract the strange ones. Anyway, good luck. Life is a lot more fun with them than without them. Hugh
Post #112,191 by deSitter 7/31/03 2:32:29 AM Reply	Re: Be careful of what you wish for, you might get it... Actually I miss them not at all. I find the company of women tiresome at best, and annoying to irritating at worst. I actively avoid them. Needless to say, my libido has been directed elsewhere. I find sex almost as boring as women. Since I also have no need for a cook, a companion, or a maid, I find it possible to do entirely without any real contact with women. I am happier than at any time in my life, and the only thing that might possibly ruin it is cancer or love. As for voting tests, if the voters were all well-informed and could pass the test I have in mind, the current regime would never have even come close to being in power, so your scenario is backwards. Now, having said this, my attitude toward women has nothing to do with my animus for feminism, which is a standalone terrible idea. -drl
Post #112,239 by inthane-chan 7/31/03 10:41:14 AM Reply	Watch out for prostate cancer! ;-)
Post #112,251 by rcareaga 7/31/03 12:30:05 PM Reply	General Jack deSitter I first became aware of it during the physical act of love...a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness...Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred. Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #112,328 by a6l6e6x 7/31/03 7:34:24 PM Reply	Almost. [link\|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000055Y0X/104-1547960-6010315?vi=glance\|General Jack D. Ripper] (Sterling Hayden), a maniacal warrior obsessed with "the purity of precious bodily fluids," mounts his singular campaign against Communism by ordering a squadron of B-52 bombers to attack the Soviet Union. Dr. Strangelove, now there's a classic. General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war? Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No, I don't think I do, sir, no. General Jack D. Ripper: He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. Alex A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #112,332 by Ashton 7/31/03 8:00:24 PM Reply	Please refrain from quoting PNAC Founding Scripture here!
Post #112,423 by deSitter 8/1/03 2:55:37 PM Reply	Re: Almost. Of course, my point has been missed - the culture of vanity and self-obsession has been the ruination of women, AND men. THAT is what I fly from. How I long for 1775. I find it hilarious how the mere mention of a contrary opinion brings forth quotes from sexual satire. In fact, the modern world is EXACTLY the one imagined by Southern - one in which obsession with sex and phallic sufficiency is undermining civilization. I have no need to get my rocks off. I am cast out of the penile/vulvic mob by the thought-crime of preferring satori to orgasms. -drl
Post #112,430 by Ashton 8/1/03 3:57:29 PM Reply	Well, deS I fancy that I {very approximately} Get it - what you 'mean' here. But I think that you (and I) most-often lack the wit and vocabulary to translate a deeply-felt disgust at -What-? we perceive to be the utter tawdriness of our daily environment in this homogenized Techno-Corpo-Theocracy du jour - at least in such useful form as might.. catalyze any improvement. I can't know what works for you; for moi the means of placing the matters in some perspective is ~ just remembering to Remember that large company (though a tiny percentage, of course) of folks who did possess the wit and the scale to 'describe' - yet escape becoming - a Part of the daily Madness. To join-in Is to die, effectively enough. It seems that "we are so dull" usually, that rereading the stuff we sorta already know - is a necessity. (We may be quite as ridikyulus as others, but at least we sometimes Know we are) (Yeah.. some days that doesn't work, either :( Hang in there. (for certain ideas of there) Ashton
Post #112,421 by deSitter 8/1/03 2:45:52 PM Reply	:)good one -drl
Post #112,040 by cwbrenn 7/30/03 12:02:45 PM Reply	As long as we're being glibly carte-blanche.... 90% of all internet cranks are simply wasting bandwidth. The other 10% are taking a nap. "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young

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