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New Re: Just a follow-up on the original post.
With some regularity, a co-worker or friend will ask me to fix a PC. Almost always, NAV is installed. The first thing I do is remove it. The users are astonised at the performance boost. I tell them about removing NAV, and strongly urge them to avoid ALL anti-virus programs, since they are all useless. A little instruction on safe use and floppies is enough protection. I usually point out that Windows is the real culprit, and that virus attacks against Linux are virtually impossible.

NAV is surely the worst of a bad lot. What a despicable program.
-drl
New Safe use and floppies?
I haven't seen a floppy based virus for five years. Everything is email and network now, and some are very sneaky. Many will infect just by appearing in the Outlook email preview window. They can even be implated by visiting a hostile Web site.

Expecting normal Windows users to not get infected is futile. I seldom see a computer that doesn't have at least a few infected files on it these days. Some antivirus program is needed.

I agree that Norton is the worst of the lot. Any product that's "Norton" anything, I avoid like the plague. They are all designed to be "smarter than the user", and put their hooks deep into the operating system. If something actually does go wrong, they can be highly destructive.
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New Missing word
Safe email use. Including disabling the preview pane.

Floppy virii can still be a plague in schools - so kids bring them home.

I usually download the "safe mode" scanners for particular families. They do as good a job as the full products.

I would be nice to acutally have a working virus program. I haven't found one that's worth the performance hit.
-drl
     Well, isn't that a fine how-di-do? - (Andrew Grygus) - (21)
         Couple details, please - - (Ashton) - (6)
             The objective is . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 Re: The objective is . . . - (deSitter) - (2)
                     You mean delete all devices, don't you? - (static) - (1)
                         Re: You mean delete all devices, don't you? - (deSitter)
                 Dunno if this will help. - (inthane-chan)
             Thanks all for nostrums - added to tool kit. -NT - (Ashton)
         Good Ideas are timeless! + >P1-166 search< question - (Ashton) - (9)
             P166 is it. - (Steve Lowe)
             Lemme check tonight - (jbrabeck)
             XCOPY vs. XCOPY32 - (deSitter) - (1)
                 Thanks - clearer. -NT - (Ashton)
             Used P1-166 CPU - (orion) - (1)
                 Thanks, Norman.. gotta get tuit. Eventually. -NT - (Ashton)
             .. but gang aft aglee - (Ashton)
             Ashton, are you still looking for the P-166? - (scoenye) - (1)
                 Thanks, yes. Note in the \ufffdther - -NT - (Ashton)
         Just a follow-up on the original post. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
             Re: Just a follow-up on the original post. - (deSitter) - (2)
                 Safe use and floppies? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                     Missing word - (deSitter)

They just don't work, in the real world outside Gosling's beard.
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