Post #103,459
5/25/03 12:50:21 AM
5/25/03 12:51:34 AM
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Turing Complete?
I dunno what that means in reference to an editor, but I LOVED this one:
[link|http://www.slickedit.com/|http://www.slickedit.com/]
I'm fully in gvim nowadays and don't need it.
Within the 1st week of using it I programmed in named cut and paste buffers.
Was very easy.
Edited by broomberg
May 25, 2003, 12:51:34 AM EDT
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Post #103,494
5/25/03 5:35:13 PM
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re: Turing-Complete
Turing-Complete generally means that it has IF statements, loops, and functions/methods (or something equivalent, like recursion). IOW, any algorithm that you can run in another language can run in a Turing-Complete language (assuming sufficient resources).
Many editors have "macros", which may record keystrokes or commands, but do not have IF statements, loops, etc. They leave you hard-pressed to customize behavior to a fine detail. For example, sometimes I wish that I could program the editor to open a file with a text DB schema and make it type in selected field names for me from the schema.
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Post #103,511
5/26/03 12:28:27 AM
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OK, slick has it
They essentially rewrite the whole interface in their own language, You have full acess to it, and it's NOT lisp! Mostly 'C' like.
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Post #103,858
5/28/03 3:10:03 PM
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Ed is $170 versus Slick for $270
Anybody compare the two? I also wonder if there is a "windowtized" Emacs; one that by default follows Windows conventions.
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Post #103,868
5/28/03 4:50:21 PM
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eeeeemaaaaaaacssssssss!
You'll soon learn it.
Peter
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Post #103,880
5/28/03 6:03:23 PM
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Emacs can do CUA. It takes 20 seconds to make it happen
Except, of course, you will not spend 20 seconds of your precious time on it.
(CUA is the name of keyboard/mouse binding standard behind Windows and Mac UIs. I think it was developed by IBM at some point. I met it first in Borland's Turbo Vision)
Read the comments in [link|http://www.cua.dk/cua.el|eLisp file]. Or, go to the [link|http://www.cua.dk|home page].
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Post #103,895
5/28/03 7:52:21 PM
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CUA
was done by IBM, DEC, Sun, MSFT, and various other companies, though IBM had the major role (at the time, it was still the 800 pound gorilla, though the decline had already started). The idea was to create a standardized look'n'feel that would hold across these firms' GUI offerings, so that people could move from one to another with a minimum of fuss and bother.
The acme of the CUA desktop is the OS/2 desktop... part of the reason I know this about it, as I actually read the docs that came with my copy of Warp Connect lo these many years ago. There was a couple of pages devoted to CUA in (IIRC) the "Up and Running with OS/2 Warp" book that came with the system.
Docs were better in the old days.
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Post #104,189
5/30/03 6:23:17 PM
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Emacsaphobia
Emacs strikes me as the kind of tool that if something goes wrong and it gets stuck in a funny mode or setting, then it would take an expert 2 hours to figure out, and an amateur 2 months.
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Post #104,191
5/30/03 6:32:53 PM
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Except that doesn't happen.
Considering I've been using emacs for about 12 years now, and that's never happened to me.
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-scott anderson
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Post #104,223
5/31/03 1:09:22 AM
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Maybe I am better at bumping the wrong button than you
Sometimes in a mad fit of anti-OO rage my hand just juts to the wrong button or button combinations and puts things in megafoobar mode.
BTW, does it recognize Windows copy-n-paste?
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Post #104,227
5/31/03 1:46:13 AM
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What wrong button?
Do you have an actual problem, or are you just whining about something you've never tried?
Peter
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Post #104,234
5/31/03 2:18:27 AM
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It is a pulled-out-of-my-arse guess
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Post #104,237
5/31/03 3:23:23 AM
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Fairy nuff.
I have adopted the "FFF" attitude to people who whine about free software.
Fix it
File a bug
or
Fuck off.
Peter
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Post #104,252
5/31/03 9:30:08 AM
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Dahm yew...
Can I use that analogy?
Because I just discovered (thanks to you) I have the same problem... FFF sound right up this alley!
Thanks in advance.
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Post #106,135
6/14/03 3:03:10 PM
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Hay, I dig yorzez spailing
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Post #104,226
5/31/03 1:45:51 AM
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Heh.
You can prove ANYTHING with FACTS.
Peter
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