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New Its Fraud
RE: [link|http://www.diplomaservices.com/|http://www.diplomaservices.com/]
Holy COW! They even provide a verification service - you fill out the transcript request forms and send them in - they make you transcripts. They also pick up the phone to discuss your years of attendance.

Box, I see you as an MIT man.

Its Fraud. Fraud deserves jail. You're worried about her losing her job? I'd have her locked up.

Like the recently departed CEO of American Airlines - what he did is fraud. He deserves jail. Not just dismissal.

Thats all there is to it.

We've gone soft. We don't expell plagarists in the universities. We don't even flunk them - we give them C's "with a warning".

I'm sick of Bozos working angles.

PUT THEM IN JAIL.



"Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes.
Contestants in a suicidal race."
    - Synchronicity II - The Police
Expand Edited by tuberculosis April 27, 2003, 03:10:57 PM EDT
Expand Edited by tuberculosis April 27, 2003, 03:14:03 PM EDT
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:56:26 AM EDT
New certitude!
Thats all there is to it
That's seldom the case.

I'm not the least worried, incidentally, about whether this woman loses or retains her job--I was merely curious as to whether anyone else found the self-appointed private dick as creepy as I did. The jesuitical zeal expressed by those of you who do not has been very intersting to observe.

cordially,

[edit: PS removed]
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Expand Edited by rcareaga April 27, 2003, 03:30:15 PM EDT
New Uh huh
I'd be interested in just what sorts of extenuating circumstances excuse the falsification of credentials.

If I begin to percieve that I'm at a disadvantage in the marketplace (which at present time is simultaneusly classifying me as "over-qualified" as a developer and "under-experienced" for management), and I see no-talent ass clowns getting promotions and raises while they fiddle their way through the fires, then I'm going to level the playing field. I'm going to cheat too. As will everybody else.

I don't much want to work/live in that kind of society - but if thats how the game works, hey, I can order a half dozen diplomas too. Maybe get a new identity while I'm at it. Heck, maybe a couple - each with its own credit card.

The system works best overall if everybody plays by the same set of rules. It is in everybody's interest to keep everybody else honest.

So I'm just acting in all of our best interests when I say "Jail em". Because a crime like this needs to be elevated to the level of "unthinkable".

PS - I found it sort of meta-entertaining that the diploma mill you point to offers conterfeit diplomas for a fraud university (your aforementioned DipShit U).



"Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes.
Contestants in a suicidal race."
    - Synchronicity II - The Police
Expand Edited by tuberculosis April 27, 2003, 05:09:04 PM EDT
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:56:38 AM EDT
New actually I will have an MIT degree
as soon as I work out a few bugs in a patent I have in mind. It will generate a large amount of cash and a suitable donation to MIT will guarranty my honorable Diploma. The question is price, is a cheap degree from Columbia State worth as much as a expensive one from MIT? Apparently not. I didnt pursue higher education because of the times I lived in. I did spend the best part of a year auditing at McGill psychology classes at all levels at Montreal. I never saw the need in the new society we were building for a bonifide degree. Either you could do the job or you could not. Things changed because of the grifters and scammers. The degree became a marketing tool, then a yardstick. Could I pass myself of as a petroleum engineer? No but how many jobs in IT preformed by Major Oil companies can I not do? Very few. The degree is a filter, I do not claim to have one and have never lied about my lack of formal education, but I have met many "educated" folks and at least they can follow the basics in their field of endevour. Is it fraud? Perhaps but if a person in a field has "X" years experience and done well lying on a resume should be punished all right but jail isnt the punishment I would seek.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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Carpe Dieu
     tilting at diploma mills - (rcareaga) - (50)
         ah yes.. - (deSitter)
         Flabbergasted - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Does this dress make me look fat? - (rcareaga) - (1)
                 There is moral relativism and moral relativism (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
         Comments - (kmself) - (1)
             Re: Comments - (rcareaga)
         My instincts are similar.. - (Ashton) - (2)
             Re: My instincts are similar.. - (rcareaga) - (1)
                 <chuckle> On Maugham... - (Another Scott)
         Having read your post and the following replies, - (boxley) - (4)
             For me it comes down to whether you can trust people or not. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 trust v. vengeance v. indiscriminate justice - (rcareaga)
                 Recent resume scandal in DC - (Another Scott)
             Re: Having read your post and the following replies, - (pwhysall)
         Nail them - (broomberg) - (1)
             unintended consequences - (rcareaga)
         Its Fraud - (tuberculosis) - (3)
             certitude! - (rcareaga) - (1)
                 Uh huh - (tuberculosis)
             actually I will have an MIT degree - (boxley)
         Dr Laura - (broomberg) - (11)
             That was someone's typo - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                 DAMN! - (broomberg) - (3)
                     I hate her as well, but... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         Note the "main" - (broomberg)
                     Your instincts must be good, then. - (Ashton)
                 How about this one? - (broomberg) - (5)
                     That looks like one bogus degree - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                         On U of Bucharest - (broomberg) - (3)
                             Ah, understood - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 I'd guess its inflated though - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                     Is it worth worrying about? -NT - (ben_tilly)
         On the moral issues - (Another Scott)
         Well at least from all of this - (rcareaga) - (8)
             What difference does it make? - (broomberg) - (7)
                 I can't really understand your analogy - (rcareaga) - (5)
                     People who BS into jobs should be fired - (broomberg) - (2)
                         Re: People who BS into jobs should be fired - (rcareaga) - (1)
                             Different protections from different punishments - (broomberg)
                     Analogies weak all around I think - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                         Draconian R'Us - (Ashton)
                 Eh? He rebooted the prod box, it didnt come up - (boxley)
         Falsified Credentials Grate at me - (gdaustin) - (3)
             Reliance on One-Time Paper Credentials - that plus - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Crooks repeat offenses... - (gdaustin) - (1)
                     So when does the pResident get his? -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Officemate suggestion - (broomberg) - (3)
             {Evull snicker} -NT - (Ashton)
             Guess you have worn off on your co-workers, huh? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Must have - (broomberg)

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