People who BS into jobs should be fired

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Post #99,009 by broomberg 4/27/03 11:49:59 PM Reply	People who BS into jobs should be fired This guy has NO business touching my systems. I've picked up some stuff from the original interview as compared to current performance that shows some discrepencies. Not enough to fire, but enough to set off the warnings. So now it is a matter of slowly taking enough hits to justify getting rid of him. Enduring pain, downtime, and possible lost data as the wheels of HR slowly turn. In the case of the BS degrees, that is a smoking gun. The "loaf of bread" was a calculated act designed to lie to a potential employer. And while employed, this person is NEVER to be trusted. Positions requiring degrees are not closely managed. Which means this person is going to cause more and more pain for those that depend on him. These are "trusted" positions. And are being given to untrustworthy people.
Post #99,013 by rcareaga 4/28/03 12:14:25 AM Reply	Re: People who BS into jobs should be fired In the case of the BS degrees, that is a smoking gun. We still grant a trial even when the smoking gun is Exhibit A. Is this such a foreign concept here? cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #99,031 by broomberg 4/28/03 6:34:44 AM 4/28/03 6:43:30 AM Reply	Different protections from different punishments Loss of liberty is different from loss of job. No trial necessary. Just enough evidence that the responsible person (boss, owner, board of directors) can make a decision. The person holding the smoking gun would be placed in jail, freedom deprived, possibly without bail until the trial. If the BS resume person was suspended, no pay, no access to do any damage, while there income was freed up to pay someone to do their job, maybe an immeidate firing would be avoided. But due to the issues of employee turnover, training, long ramp up time for projects, institutional memory, etc, I'd say the company should not be burdened. Edited by broomberg April 28, 2003, 06:43:30 AM EDT Expand All History

tilting at diploma mills - (rcareaga) - (50) - April 27, 2003, 01:37:59 PM EDT

ah yes.. - (deSitter) - April 26, 2003, 02:03:26 PM EDT

Flabbergasted - (ben_tilly) - (2) - April 26, 2003, 06:32:47 PM EDT

Does this dress make me look fat? - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 26, 2003, 08:04:33 PM EDT

There is moral relativism and moral relativism (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - April 27, 2003, 11:59:16 AM EDT

Comments - (kmself) - (1) - April 26, 2003, 06:45:31 PM EDT

Re: Comments - (rcareaga) - April 27, 2003, 11:23:24 AM EDT

My instincts are similar.. - (Ashton) - (2) - April 27, 2003, 03:39:53 AM EDT

Re: My instincts are similar.. - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 27, 2003, 11:51:43 AM EDT

<chuckle> On Maugham... - (Another Scott) - April 27, 2003, 12:14:24 PM EDT

Having read your post and the following replies, - (boxley) - (4) - April 27, 2003, 11:31:32 AM EDT

For me it comes down to whether you can trust people or not. - (Another Scott) - (2) - April 27, 2003, 12:25:29 PM EDT

trust v. vengeance v. indiscriminate justice - (rcareaga) - April 27, 2003, 01:47:16 PM EDT

Recent resume scandal in DC - (Another Scott) - April 27, 2003, 03:12:48 PM EDT

Re: Having read your post and the following replies, - (pwhysall) - April 27, 2003, 12:33:45 PM EDT

Nail them - (broomberg) - (1) - April 27, 2003, 01:11:04 PM EDT

unintended consequences - (rcareaga) - April 27, 2003, 01:29:30 PM EDT

Its Fraud - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:56:26 AM EDT

certitude! - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 27, 2003, 03:30:15 PM EDT

Uh huh - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:56:38 AM EDT

actually I will have an MIT degree - (boxley) - May 3, 2003, 11:21:31 PM EDT

Dr Laura - (broomberg) - (11) - April 27, 2003, 06:34:43 PM EDT

That was someone's typo - (ben_tilly) - (10) - April 27, 2003, 06:51:08 PM EDT

DAMN! - (broomberg) - (3) - April 27, 2003, 06:57:25 PM EDT

I hate her as well, but... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 27, 2003, 07:20:46 PM EDT

Note the "main" - (broomberg) - April 27, 2003, 07:54:05 PM EDT

Your instincts must be good, then. - (Ashton) - April 27, 2003, 07:25:09 PM EDT

How about this one? - (broomberg) - (5) - April 27, 2003, 07:22:46 PM EDT

That looks like one bogus degree - (ben_tilly) - (4) - April 27, 2003, 07:40:52 PM EDT

On U of Bucharest - (broomberg) - (3) - April 27, 2003, 07:56:36 PM EDT

Ah, understood - (ben_tilly) - (2) - April 28, 2003, 01:03:41 AM EDT

I'd guess its inflated though - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:58:10 AM EDT

Is it worth worrying about? -NT - (ben_tilly) - April 28, 2003, 08:36:56 AM EDT

On the moral issues - (Another Scott) - April 27, 2003, 09:21:43 PM EDT

Well at least from all of this - (rcareaga) - (8) - April 27, 2003, 09:37:52 PM EDT

What difference does it make? - (broomberg) - (7) - April 27, 2003, 11:05:50 PM EDT

I can't really understand your analogy - (rcareaga) - (5) - April 27, 2003, 11:31:21 PM EDT

People who BS into jobs should be fired - (broomberg) - (2) - April 27, 2003, 11:49:59 PM EDT

Re: People who BS into jobs should be fired - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 28, 2003, 12:14:25 AM EDT

Different protections from different punishments - (broomberg) - April 28, 2003, 06:43:30 AM EDT

Analogies weak all around I think - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:58:08 AM EDT

Draconian R'Us - (Ashton) - April 28, 2003, 02:30:23 AM EDT

Eh? He rebooted the prod box, it didnt come up - (boxley) - May 3, 2003, 11:29:31 PM EDT

Falsified Credentials Grate at me - (gdaustin) - (3) - April 28, 2003, 11:36:33 AM EDT

Reliance on One-Time Paper Credentials - that plus - (Ashton) - (2) - April 28, 2003, 07:35:29 PM EDT

Crooks repeat offenses... - (gdaustin) - (1) - April 29, 2003, 10:30:22 AM EDT

So when does the pResident get his? -NT - (ben_tilly) - April 29, 2003, 10:32:20 AM EDT

Officemate suggestion - (broomberg) - (3) - April 29, 2003, 03:38:54 PM EDT

{Evull snicker} -NT - (Ashton) - April 29, 2003, 07:10:07 PM EDT

Guess you have worn off on your co-workers, huh? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 29, 2003, 07:54:13 PM EDT

Must have - (broomberg) - April 29, 2003, 10:21:40 PM EDT

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