Post #97,572
4/21/03 11:12:53 AM
4/21/03 11:32:02 AM
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Anything left at Infoworld worth reading?
[link|http://infoworld.com/article/03/04/18/16gripe_1.html|Ed Foster's calling it quits.]
After 9/11, Bush made two statements:
1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity."
2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism."
Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
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Post #97,579
4/21/03 11:27:24 AM
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He's "publishing" his own letter
Free email. If you liked his column in the past, join his list. His request for membership is to provide vendors with a COUNT of readership (not providing our email addresses).
If signed up.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #97,582
4/21/03 11:32:36 AM
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Me too...
Just wondering if there are any columnists left at Infoworld worth reading. :P
After 9/11, Bush made two statements:
1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity."
2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism."
Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
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Post #97,588
4/21/03 11:44:16 AM
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Where do you sign up?
I can't imagine they'll provide the link at IWE to bypass their version of it.
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Post #97,592
4/21/03 11:50:02 AM
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Re: Where do you sign up?
There was an address in the article.
newcolumn@gripe2ed.com
I sent an e-mail asking to be included in the newsletter to that address.
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Post #97,594
4/21/03 11:53:20 AM
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Direct link provided for your convenience
[link|http://www.gripe2ed.com/mailman/listinfo/edfoster|List Signup]
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #97,599
4/21/03 11:57:58 AM
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thanks^2
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Post #97,595
4/21/03 11:54:48 AM
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thanks
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Post #97,617
4/21/03 1:22:06 PM
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Dan Gillmor story: Big Shakeup at Infoworld
It's very short, but says that Foster, Livingston and Steve Gillmor have moved on after a big shakeup. Links to their new haunts are [link|http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/000957.shtml#000957|here].
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #97,653
4/21/03 3:02:42 PM
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From Ed:
Robert Brewer wrote:
>Glad you had a nice long run, there, Ed. Hope your future endeavors pay off. You are, of course, more than welcome at IWETHEY: [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums|http://z.iwethey.org/forums] , where a lot of the ex-IWE forum blokes still chew the fat. We're all looking forward to your mailing list!
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>Robert Brewer
>aka tseliot
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Robert: Thanks. Let the IWETHEY gang know for me that my permanent site
is going to be www.gripelog.com. We're having problems right now with
our blog engine, so my stopgap site is a little weird. But I hope all
my old friends will come visit once we've get our act together.
Ed Foster
Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance -
Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation.
BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
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Post #97,654
4/21/03 3:12:32 PM
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Ed is the whole reason:
I showed up the first time. I got an invite from him to the original IWE site.
Can't keep a good man down forever. (You can try, but eventually we'll succeed)
b4k4^2
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Post #97,683
4/21/03 5:14:28 PM
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Thread of the Week (?) - Support Ed; one of the >Good Guys<
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Post #97,752
4/21/03 11:12:35 PM
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I guess there's still Bob Lewis...
But he's not techical... He writes the management column.
I was reading the Mario Apicella/Storage Articles for a while, but even those have become just marketing fodder, it seems.
Actually, I haven't had time to look at the paper Infoworld in several weeks. Work has been VERY busy.
Also, I have a friend who wants to get moving on writing a web scheduling product for the medical industry (nurses, techs, and things like radiology, surgery, etc.)
I'm getting more and more interested.
Glen Austin
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Post #97,753
4/21/03 11:16:08 PM
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Re: I guess there's still Bob Lewis...
He must have pics of Sandy doing nasty things with an OS/2 shrinkwrap.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #97,768
4/22/03 12:09:22 AM
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Bob Lewis is getting the boot too
So with Livingston, Foster and Lewis going, going, gone, and people like Nick who left a long time ago, they won't have anybody worth reading anymore. How sad it is, from where the magazine used to be 20 to 10 years ago, compared to what it has de-evolved into today.
Interesting thing is that nobody, columnists or editors, are saying WHY this shake-out is occuring...
lincoln
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Post #97,776
4/22/03 12:34:09 AM
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Two words - youth movement
Bets?
I get the print rag - it supplies less interesting can reading than a newspaper on a slow day. And you can't use the slick paper when the roll is empty.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #97,947
4/22/03 3:54:06 PM
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Four words - Lower costs, less filling...
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Post #97,950
4/22/03 3:56:04 PM
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I've traded emails with Robert Lewis, so I guess
I'll email him and get his take on being unemployed soon.
Not that he was probably making very much money on the mag anyway.
It turned out to be more free advertising for his consulting business.
My guess is that he's probably still living off his proceeds from the Perot stock, if he sold at the right time.
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Post #97,794
4/22/03 4:17:10 AM
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PHB apologist
"Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes.
Contestants in a suicidal race."
- Synchronicity II - The Police
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Post #97,780
4/22/03 12:45:56 AM
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IW Fallout: early warning
An editor on a competing rag shares my ferry ride occasionally. I'd heard whispers that Gillmor might be heading onwards about a month ago, though I didn't see confirmation, or have any idea it was part of a larger push. Looks like they're going from 13 columnists to 4, and it's [link|http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/04/18/16noise_1.html|good news]. Hell, if that's good news, I'd hate to see bad. Or as the jIWT comment went: how many are required to reprocess Microsoft PR releases? Indeed. --\r\n
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Post #97,800
4/22/03 6:04:07 AM
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Obstreporous LRPD:____ Determined absurdity
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Post #97,844
4/22/03 10:21:03 AM
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Note the creative use of the word "tabloid"
I also like the "Leaderboard". "When we have nothing new to print, we can still fill a few pages"
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Inquiring minds want to scream.
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Post #97,932
4/22/03 3:38:32 PM
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IDG Cost Cutting?
I would be interested to see if other IDG publications are doing the same thing...
LinuxWorld?
ComputerWorld?
Network(ing)World?
I'll bet that since ad revenues are down, so are funds to pay writers. Can the complete collapse of IDG be far behind? Also, IDG was slower to get into the "new media" than Ziff Davis, and I'll bet it hurt them bad.
Same thing happened to newspapers when the Internet debutted in 1995. Many were "slow" to get in on the Internet and it cost them. Some still haven't recovered.
If you're a packrat, go pick up a 1999 Infoworld and compare them. No comparison. This rag used to be 150+ pages on a good week. Now they're lucky to get 50-70 pages.
I don't want slick press releases, I want someone to tell me if a new technology is BS or not. I want someone to tell me who's using the new tech, and if they're having problems. I want someone to "call it" on the technology, based on market conditions.
It sounds like the suits have won at IDG, so it's time to find all these fine author's Blogs, and get into newsgroups and find ways to connect these authors back together without a "formal" corporate structure like IDG.
Finally, it will probably be very refreshing to hear some of these authors "unchained", so they can tell the truth, not what IDG wants them to say.
Glen Austin
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Post #97,934
4/22/03 3:40:41 PM
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Computer Reseller News is also shrinking
Just over the last year... the magazines are smaller. This is because of less advertising, I'm sure.
I wonder how long it will be before panic starts to set in?
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Post #97,936
4/22/03 3:44:16 PM
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LW is long dead
Nick was at ComputerWorld briefly, as an occasional columnist.
The destruction of the computer press is directly traceable to their being in bed with MICROS~9. Who wants to read a lousy rag with no content? The old InfoWorld could be counted on for honest and informed opinions. HEY! THAT'S WHY PEOPLE READ IT! AMAZING!
Was there ever a company as pernicious as Microsoft? Everything they touch, they ruin.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #97,938
4/22/03 3:45:39 PM
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Visited IDG's Website...
I'm betting that InfoWorld is rolled into ComputerWorld in less than 1 year. They will "re-subscribe" InfoWorld readers to ComputerWorld, or ComputerWorld will "go pay" and the IDG free magazine era will be over.
That's my bet, they aren't pulling enough advertising revenue and so they're consolidating their lines into a few winners (ComputerWorld), and pushing paid subscriptions (PC World, Mac World).
From a business perspective, probably a survival move in these "fun" times.
I forgot to mention Mac World, PC World, Bio-IT World, and oh yes, CIO.
The www.idg.com website says they have 300 magazines (but many are probably International in nature).
But, the whole print magazine era may be coming to an end anyway...
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Post #97,952
4/22/03 3:59:34 PM
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Re: Visited IDG's Website...
The www.idg.com website says they have 300 magazines (but many are probably International in nature).
Nah, that's a stack of old Playboys - but there could be a coupla Cheris in there..
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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