Post #97,344
4/18/03 7:06:25 PM
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Open-source grid widget?
Does anybody know a good open-source implementation of a grid widget that you have used in production with "normal" users? Grid widgets seem the toughest GUI widget to get right. XUL only seems to have read-only grids, and Java Swing's sucks eggs (the last I tried it).
Perhaps I am just too used to Windows UI conventions, but that is what most users are familiary with also, so it must be confronted in practice.
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Post #97,367
4/19/03 2:17:02 AM
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Re: Open-source grid widget?
Good luck finding it, most grid controls I have seen are at least shareware and closed source.
[link|http://www.activex.com/|http://www.activex.com/] use to be easy enough to search, but now that CNet has taken it over, you have to browse at [link|http://download.com.com/2001-2206-0.html?tag=dir|http://download.com....06-0.html?tag=dir] to find the control you want to use.
You may want to do a search at [link|http://www.sourceforge.net/|http://www.sourceforge.net/] and see what shows up. If it isn't there or in a search engine, chances are you won't find it.
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Post #97,372
4/19/03 2:33:21 AM
4/19/03 2:34:16 AM
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Active-X? Gulp......but thanx for links
Edited by tablizer
April 19, 2003, 02:34:16 AM EDT
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Post #97,394
4/19/03 2:15:50 PM
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What's your environment?
If you want ActiveX/OLE, try Apex' grid controls. [link|http://www.softedge.co.za/TrueDBGrid6.htm|http://www.softedge....a/TrueDBGrid6.htm]
If you have DOM-compliant clients, I can give you the grid I just wrote. Let me know and I'll post it.
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Post #97,408
4/19/03 6:21:50 PM
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As TSE says, for what dev. environment, if not as an OCX?
I mean, if you use [link|http://www.borland.com/delphi/|The One True RAD IDE], then there's lots of stuff: On the [link|http://www.torry.net/drawgrids.htm|first Grids page] (of six) at [link|http://www.torry.net/|Torry's D****i Pages], for instance, are all marked "FWS" -- which stands for "FreeWare with Source"[*].
OK, so that first page is the only one where they *all* happen to be "FWS"... But on five out of those six web pages, there are at least *some* "Free With Source" grid components on each. Only the "Spreadsheets" page seems to be without any; OTOH, some of that functionality seems to be included in components on other pages. Check out TMS Grid Pack v.1.7 on the [link|http://www.torry.net/gridpacks.htm|Grid Packs page], for example; does that look like it could be useful or what?
What, you don't use [link|http://www.borland.com/delphi/|The Only Real Development Environment For Windows]? Well, there's your problem, then...
[*]: Dunno, maybe that should be "Freeware With Source"?
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Post #98,455
4/24/03 2:57:07 AM
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Delphi question re dynamic widgets
How easy would it be to make a SCGUI-like tool using Delphi? Can it handle dynamically created (during run-time) widgets?
BTW, how is Delphi employment compared to other IT?
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Post #98,522
4/24/03 11:45:55 AM
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You want GUI over HTTP? I've offered you one already.
You got something against the DOM?
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Post #98,844
4/26/03 3:46:44 AM
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DOM stinks like rotten bat farts,but lets not start that agn
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Post #98,611
4/24/03 6:40:17 PM
4/25/03 1:44:43 PM
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You want an answer from me? Why should I answer that?
How easy would it be to make a SCGUI-like tool using Delphi? Fuck knows -- what IS "a SCGUI-like tool" ?!? Do *try* to talk in generally accepted terms when you're out among people, please -- save the Brycian tongue-talk for your Web site monologues. But, on the off chance that "a SCGUI-like tool" means "A RAD tool to build 'distributed' applications, which are accessed by browser clients over HTTP", then, well... Then, at least since the arrival of the [link|http://www.atozedsoftware.com/intraWeb/intros/Borland.html|IntraWeb] suite of components from [link|http://www.atozedsoftware.com/indexjs.html|Atozed Software], then Delphi IS "a SCGUI-like tool" -- and, if anything, probably *better* than you ever envisioned. Can it handle dynamically created (during run-time) widgets? Of fucking *course* it can !!! What are you, *stupid* ??? Don't answer that; it was a rhetorical question. Or, if you will, read it as: "What are you, so fucking stupid you think I'll answer elaborate on a question that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you've *never* even TRIED it, although a) I've spent *years* telling you it can do everything you want and a lot more besides, and b) it's been available, free for the download from Borland, for a couple of years now, and for at least three years before that it was available on very, *very* low-cost magazine cover disks -- are you really *so* fucking stupid that you think I 'll answer a question would, once AGAIN, explain exactly how to do a simple thing like that?" Come to think about it, don't answer that either; turns out it's still a rhetorical question. BTW, how is Delphi employment compared to other IT It's fucking *heaven*... If you can get it. HTH! oop.ismad.com no.bryce.is [Edit: Clarified, removed self-contradictions.]
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Edited by CRConrad
April 25, 2003, 01:44:43 PM EDT
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Post #98,843
4/26/03 3:44:07 AM
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Did Delphi make you rude, or were you just born that way?
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Post #98,967
4/27/03 4:43:40 PM
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How was that any ruder than what YOU wrote? (new thread)
Created as new thread #98966 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=98966|How was that any ruder than what YOU wrote?]
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Post #97,496
4/21/03 12:00:06 AM
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for the programming impaired could you define grid widget?
if it is a drawing tool that provides grids, might be able to help.
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bill
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Post #97,575
4/21/03 11:19:29 AM
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More like
it provides an API to easily put things (other widgets) onto a layout in a grid format.
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Post #97,587
4/21/03 11:43:21 AM
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here ya go
Tkined
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Post #97,631
4/21/03 2:19:05 PM
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TK has been used to write trees and grids
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Post #98,457
4/24/03 3:06:31 AM
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don't need every possible widget in there I think
it provides an API to easily put things (other widgets) onto a layout in a grid format.
I don't think I need to put a wide variety of widgets in the grid. Text and check-boxes (and perhaps maybe pull-down lists) might be sufficient. Ideally the user could expand or shrink columns by dragging on the borders in the column headers. And of course have automatic scroll-bars.
Think of sort of a scaled-down spreadsheet (MS-Excel) in a fixed area or window without the "edit bar" (or optional edit bar) at top. Data entry would appear right inside cells next to the cursor.
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Post #98,485
4/24/03 9:12:41 AM
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exactly what tkined is for
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Post #97,583
4/21/03 11:33:03 AM
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On OS X there's one in the standard cocoa toolkit
Somehow I'm guessing you want something for windows though.
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Post #97,633
4/21/03 2:19:54 PM
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Windows has a standard one too - very dumb one
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