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Post #97,250

by tjsinclair

4/18/03 9:24:21 AM

One question

Per Biden on this bill:
"It is only trying to deter illicit drug use"

I may be confused here, but isn't this already illegal?

If so, why do we need ANOTHER F***ING LAW!

Are our lawmakers trying to say, "Well, this time we really, *really* mean it"?

Tom Sinclair

"Man, I love it when the complete absence of a plan comes together."
- [link|http://radio.weblogs.com/0104634/|Ernie the Attorney]

Post #97,263

by bbronson

4/18/03 11:07:20 AM

Whether or not they "mean it" is secondary

Most (probably 98.5+%) of legislators primary purpose in making laws is to show the people that they're doing something about X. Even if the law just duplicates existing laws, or won't actually change X, they still get to thump their chests and say, "I care about problem X, and my [opponent/opposing party] doesn't."

Brian Bronson

Joe Biden's in trouble. - (marlowe) - (110) - April 17, 2003, 08:20:54 PM EDT

Re: Joe Biden's in trouble. - (rcareaga) - (104) - April 18, 2003, 12:06:57 AM EDT

Now why on earth would that hit a nerve with you? - (marlowe) - (17) - April 20, 2003, 06:35:56 PM EDT

wrong again, marlowe - (rcareaga) - (16) - April 21, 2003, 01:49:42 AM EDT

Wasted reasoning, I fear - - (Ashton) - April 21, 2003, 05:49:42 AM EDT

No, I was speaking of anything that impairs judgement... - (marlowe) - (14) - April 21, 2003, 08:48:20 AM EDT

That second link kills Galeon. -NT - (pwhysall) - April 21, 2003, 09:03:45 AM EDT

Motes, beams - (rcareaga) - April 21, 2003, 09:52:21 AM EDT

and there is the still-unassailable argument - (rcareaga) - April 21, 2003, 10:22:43 AM EDT

In that case, Marlowe...PUT THAT BEER DOWN!!! NOW!!! - (jb4) - (9) - April 21, 2003, 10:38:45 AM EDT

Too late. :) -NT - (inthane-chan) - April 21, 2003, 10:41:15 AM EDT

And the cigarette! - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 21, 2003, 10:54:01 AM EDT

And stop going to Church. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 21, 2003, 12:06:51 PM EDT

Nice try. I don't drink. - (marlowe) - (5) - April 21, 2003, 07:19:07 PM EDT

theres your solution, whats yer problem again? -NT - (boxley) - April 21, 2003, 07:25:19 PM EDT

Somehow - that doesn't surprise me. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - April 21, 2003, 07:29:08 PM EDT

No doubt - he's the Churchlady - (deSitter) - April 21, 2003, 10:41:54 PM EDT

You don't drink. You also... - (rcareaga) - April 21, 2003, 10:49:10 PM EDT

Well. you should. -NT - (pwhysall) - April 22, 2003, 02:45:52 AM EDT

Fix your HTML please. - (a6l6e6x) - April 21, 2003, 02:09:30 PM EDT

My RKJ. - (mmoffitt) - (85) - April 21, 2003, 02:32:57 PM EDT

Gee, we have a certified physiologist in our ranks! - (jb4) - (16) - April 21, 2003, 04:22:55 PM EDT

Since every study on that backs me up... - (mmoffitt) - (15) - April 22, 2003, 04:31:06 PM EDT

Re: Since every study on that backs me up... - (deSitter) - (14) - April 22, 2003, 04:55:05 PM EDT

Are you disputing where THC binds in the brain? - (mmoffitt) - (13) - April 22, 2003, 04:57:13 PM EDT

Re: Are you disputing where THC binds in the brain? - (deSitter) - (2) - April 22, 2003, 05:00:01 PM EDT

Better idea. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 22, 2003, 05:00:43 PM EDT

Makes more sense than banning a plant. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 22, 2003, 09:00:10 PM EDT

What I will dispute is the generalities: - (jb4) - (9) - April 23, 2003, 03:54:54 PM EDT

Methinks your reading with bias. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - April 24, 2003, 11:42:44 AM EDT

Decriminalize != legalize - (jb4) - (7) - April 24, 2003, 04:34:05 PM EDT

Perhaps. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - April 25, 2003, 02:25:39 PM EDT

(sigh) but mmoffit... - (rcareaga) - (5) - April 25, 2003, 03:40:28 PM EDT

Thanks. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 25, 2003, 03:36:05 PM EDT

Re: Thanks. - (rcareaga) - (3) - April 25, 2003, 04:04:22 PM EDT

Mom was in the car w/the 3 friends. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - April 25, 2003, 04:49:20 PM EDT

Re: Mom was in the car w/the 3 friends. - (deSitter) - (1) - April 25, 2003, 04:58:32 PM EDT

BG driver no better, but it wasn't, was it? - (mmoffitt) - April 25, 2003, 05:13:03 PM EDT

I could introduce you to drunks - (boxley) - (1) - April 21, 2003, 04:34:52 PM EDT

Re: I could introduce you to drunks - (deSitter) - April 21, 2003, 04:39:49 PM EDT

Re: My RKJ. - (rcareaga) - (15) - April 21, 2003, 11:41:14 PM EDT

Well.. typically though - the inexperienced with [whatever] - (Ashton) - (10) - April 21, 2003, 11:42:10 PM EDT

It's not slogans, it's experience. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - April 22, 2003, 04:49:47 PM EDT

A good reason for you to try it - (Silverlock) - (6) - April 22, 2003, 04:51:34 PM EDT

I hate this topic. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - April 22, 2003, 04:53:54 PM EDT

Hey there - (deSitter) - April 22, 2003, 04:57:01 PM EDT

You haven't lost any friends. - (Silverlock) - April 22, 2003, 08:53:55 PM EDT

Nope. You're wrong. - (Another Scott) - April 22, 2003, 09:26:28 PM EDT

Thanks everybody :-) - (mmoffitt) - April 22, 2003, 09:40:53 PM EDT

no worries, lets give Jake a job to do (too old for google) - (boxley) - April 22, 2003, 10:50:49 PM EDT

While I agree with much of what you are saying... - (screamer) - (1) - April 22, 2003, 05:23:46 PM EDT

Wot 'ee said. - (inthane-chan) - April 22, 2003, 05:47:06 PM EDT

On one point, I wasn't clear. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - April 22, 2003, 04:39:28 PM EDT

Well, aren't we a spunky young feller! - (rcareaga) - (2) - April 22, 2003, 04:57:11 PM EDT

That's my motto. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 22, 2003, 04:59:42 PM EDT

Re: That's my motto. - (rcareaga) - April 22, 2003, 10:31:15 PM EDT

Right impulse, wrong instantiation. - (admin) - (49) - April 22, 2003, 05:16:44 PM EDT

What he said -NT - (Silverlock) - April 22, 2003, 08:57:31 PM EDT

People want to be able to measure things. - (Another Scott) - (47) - April 22, 2003, 09:41:39 PM EDT

You know what I've always found interesting re: auto safety? - (mmoffitt) - (41) - April 22, 2003, 09:47:03 PM EDT

What you've always found interesting - (rcareaga) - (36) - April 22, 2003, 10:55:53 PM EDT

It's like flying. - (mmoffitt) - (35) - April 23, 2003, 11:36:28 AM EDT

Re: It's like flying. - (rcareaga) - (34) - April 23, 2003, 01:29:50 PM EDT

But ... but ... but ... - (drewk) - April 23, 2003, 01:45:50 PM EDT

Nice try. - (mmoffitt) - (32) - April 23, 2003, 03:29:20 PM EDT

Re: Nice try. - (rcareaga) - (31) - April 23, 2003, 04:56:07 PM EDT

Very nicely said! - (jb4) - April 23, 2003, 05:46:09 PM EDT

Perhaps my attempt at levity did betray something more... - (mmoffitt) - (29) - April 24, 2003, 11:26:02 AM EDT

Sounds to me like... - (admin) - (1) - April 24, 2003, 11:38:07 AM EDT

That might help. - (mmoffitt) - April 24, 2003, 11:43:50 AM EDT

That's an argument for education, not banning - (drewk) - (2) - April 24, 2003, 11:49:32 AM EDT

QED. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 24, 2003, 12:03:27 PM EDT

Wow, talk about missing the point - (drewk) - April 24, 2003, 01:37:45 PM EDT

the breadth of your sample - (rcareaga) - (23) - April 24, 2003, 12:09:24 PM EDT

In the absence of any counter-example, what should I do? - (mmoffitt) - (22) - April 24, 2003, 12:28:40 PM EDT

Re: In the absence of any counter-example, what should I do? - (rcareaga) - (21) - April 24, 2003, 12:59:21 PM EDT

Closer, but that's not really my position. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - April 24, 2003, 01:17:10 PM EDT

"Anything not prohibited is required." - (drewk) - (5) - April 24, 2003, 01:47:39 PM EDT

That, and... - (admin) - April 24, 2003, 01:59:25 PM EDT

I see. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - April 24, 2003, 02:47:54 PM EDT

Mike - (jake123) - (1) - April 24, 2003, 03:00:33 PM EDT

I would not be surprised at their number. - (mmoffitt) - April 24, 2003, 03:44:06 PM EDT

Try responding to what I actually said - (drewk) - April 24, 2003, 03:21:49 PM EDT

OK, work with me here - (rcareaga) - (13) - April 24, 2003, 03:06:29 PM EDT

Nomination for Post of the Day! Congrats! - (Another Scott) - April 24, 2003, 03:14:37 PM EDT

A request for enlightenment. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - April 24, 2003, 04:05:37 PM EDT

Responsible means: not harming others. - (admin) - April 24, 2003, 04:13:23 PM EDT

Marijuana use - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - April 24, 2003, 04:28:01 PM EDT

They aren't advocates... - (bepatient) - (2) - April 24, 2003, 10:19:29 PM EDT

Good Christ! We agree. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 25, 2003, 10:49:05 AM EDT

Sort of, yes we do. - (bepatient) - April 25, 2003, 11:02:36 AM EDT

What if the answer is "none"? What then? - (drewk) - April 24, 2003, 05:15:19 PM EDT

Re: A request for enlightenment. - (rcareaga) - April 24, 2003, 06:45:50 PM EDT

NORML on "responsible use" (new thread) - (Another Scott) - April 24, 2003, 10:15:41 PM EDT

Re: A request for enlightenment. - (Ashton) - (1) - April 25, 2003, 04:02:43 AM EDT

Cohort-LRPD: Escape from the prison planet! -NT - (Ashton) - April 25, 2003, 05:30:52 AM EDT

Responsible Users - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:53:55 AM EDT

2001 US stats from NHTSA.gov - (Another Scott) - (3) - April 22, 2003, 11:30:10 PM EDT

Re: 2001 US stats from NHTSA.gov - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 23, 2003, 12:48:24 AM EDT

There ya go - (deSitter) - April 23, 2003, 10:20:01 AM EDT

Re: slow down - (bbronson) - April 23, 2003, 05:07:42 PM EDT

Er... we already do it that way. - (admin) - (4) - April 22, 2003, 10:56:05 PM EDT

True. Good points. - (Another Scott) - April 22, 2003, 11:32:39 PM EDT

Re: Er... we already do it that way. - (deSitter) - (2) - April 23, 2003, 10:24:13 AM EDT

No, that's all backwards - (drewk) - (1) - April 23, 2003, 11:02:31 AM EDT

Damn - you're right - (deSitter) - April 23, 2003, 11:08:29 AM EDT

too much recreational drug usage? - (boxley) - April 18, 2003, 12:16:27 AM EDT

If absence of drugs creates marlowes amongst the - (Ashton) - April 18, 2003, 02:26:30 AM EDT

One question - (tjsinclair) - (1) - April 18, 2003, 09:24:21 AM EDT

Whether or not they "mean it" is secondary - (bbronson) - April 18, 2003, 11:07:20 AM EDT

So why is Biden in trouble for proposing such a law... - (Simon_Jester) - April 18, 2003, 12:30:08 PM EDT

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