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New Yes, the absurdity is total . .
. . "The US can then quietly go about assasinating terrorists identified by their new updated, highly funded, intelligence services".

At exactly what funding level would our intelligence services start to work? Is there that much money?
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New Can't buy retroactive time with even $USD
That ~5 year lead time, that is. (Maybe about the time the sleepers began to arrive in US for this job? - some think.)

Announcements from Mein Kampff II, wherein bin-L announced his plans, later made near-future predictions (which somehow presaged an actual Event - each time) umm several times, and in quite clear wording -

These were insufficiently impressive to the tough minded pragmatic spooks: those 'guardians against waste' of taxpayers money, for frivolous pursuits of guys with funny robes. Best (and lots less messy) to use nice techno- surveillance - just like that remote for the Tee Vee. Save those messy personnel and unsavory sources.
(you blew That one, Bill C. et al)

Contrasting a similar puzzle, though scientifically a vastly complex problem: Enigma, the German adaptation of a Swiss? enciphering device for commerce, in late '30s. A couple of Poles found a rather silly flaw: 1:1 mapping of keyboard to master rotor (Brit sleuths never thought to look - they *wouldn't* do something that simple!) then Alan Turing, etc.

I suppose that, had modern-day priorities operated then, and Enigma not been broken - Rommel would have won in N. Africa, the U-boats would have sunk all the Atlantic shipping: we'd be counting ein, zwei, drei.. non? Are we getting dumber or just more bizness-like - or is that the same?

Bitch bitch bitch.. 20/20 is so.. illuminating, no?





A.

Of course, any idiot knows where the [link|http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2001/07/23/tomo/index.html|real priorities lie...]
Expand Edited by Missing User 70 Sept. 19, 2001, 06:12:36 AM EDT
New If Bin was smart.....
Your Mein Kampff reference gave me an idea.

If I was Bin and truly believed in that (stupid) cause, then what he should do is surrendur to the US under the condition that he can write a book in jail to explain his ideas.

It would likely be a best seller now that Bin is the most focused-on person in the world. He's bigger than OJ, especially world-wide.

That may sway opinion more than bombs and gas.

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New Y'know..?
That sounds so dumb - it just might be brilliant! - except once ever seen as a ploy? Cancelled out. Only works once.

Yes, he's articulate, and many of his charges have basis in some facts of the US hegemony / lone 'super' status and, our actual national attitude about power and about $$. And even about our triviality, given our social habits..

But this is not about 'reasoning'. Given even a brilliantly written indictment of 'our' very many failures, our actions from ignorance of the inevitable consequences (supporting anti-democratic tyrants "in the name of democracy", trying to get everybody to stop drugs locally via Fascist methods - because our national appetite is insatiable!) etc.

In an honest debate (his book vs 'our' book):
We were utterly indispensable in the defeat of Nazism (as were the British indispensable in breaking Enigma - a main reason we all won a couple years early). The Marshall plan illustrates America at its finest - a complete reversal of the massive vengeance after WW-I. Etc. No other entity comes even close - we rebuilt Europe! after their cowardly appeasements almost gave Hitler his lebensraum.

So in the age of the net, and given bin-L's articulate presentation of the POV of the relatively powerless world he represents - IMhO you can't do Mein Kampff twice; you can't create Jews as scapegoats and Straw ones at that - twice. You can talk about the vicious dividing up of the whole world's wealth, of course - but then you would indict Most nations! Not merely in US - is the local wealth concentrated in the few (or a handful - try Saudi Arabia, one of 'his boys').

He'd lose that propaganda war - if there were such a thing left as 'honest debate'. (Still.. power corrupts and, we are approaching Absolute.)


My 3 zlotys.

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     Good quote for the day - (Fearless Freep) - (7)
         Oh great! He missed the tent AND hurt an innocent animal - (tablizer) - (6)
             Re: I keep having flashbacks to Catch-22 - (dmarker2) - (5)
                 Yes, the absurdity is total . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                     Can't buy retroactive time with even $USD - (Ashton) - (2)
                         If Bin was smart..... - (tablizer) - (1)
                             Y'know..? - (Ashton)
                 We don't have Heller, but we have Tom Tomorrow.. Today - (Ashton)

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