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Post #94,578 by dmarker 4/5/03 4:36:46 PM 4/5/03 4:49:46 PM Reply	I will try to depart from this with this last post Definitions of Paranoia Paranoid Characteristics: Persecution, Grandeur (delusions) Pattern 1 - Persecution ... Paranoic person: 'They' are out to 'get' (me,us) ! Rational observer: Who are they ? Paranoic person: Them ! Rational observer: Where are they - point one out ? Paranoic person: They are everywhere ! Rational observer: I can't determine who they, or where these 'they', are ! Paranoic person: Back off man, you are probably one of them ! Pattern 2 - Grandeur Paranoic person: I am on a mission to save the (world, country, group) Rational observer: What are you going to save (world, country, group) from ? Paranoic person: Those who are out to harm (world, country, group) or even themselves ! Rational observer: Who are they ? (now switch to persecution thread) ***************************************** My points ? 1) The above are two realistic interpretations of Paranoia and Paranoid. 2) Switch 'them' with (lefties, liberals, saddam lovers etc:) Then start asking who in IWETHEY best fits the patterns. Cheers Doug Marker Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003 Edited by dmarker April 5, 2003, 04:48:51 PM EST Edited by dmarker April 5, 2003, 04:49:46 PM EST I will try to depart from this with this last post Definitions of Paranoia Paranoid Characteristics: Persecution, Grandeur (delusions) Pattern 1 - Delusions ... Paranoic person: 'They' are out to 'get' (me,us) ! Rational observer: Who are they ? Paranoic person: Them ! Rational observer: Where are they - point one out ? Paranoic person: They are everywhere ! Rational observer: I can't determine who they, or where these 'they', are ! Paranoic person: Back off man, you are probably one of them ! Pattern 2 - Grandeur Paranoic person: I am on a mission to save the (world, country, group) Rational observer: What are you going to save (world, country, group) from ? Paranoic person: Those who are out to harm (world, country, group) or even themselves ! Rational observer: Who are they ? (now switch to persecution thread) ***************************************** My points ? 1) The above are two realistic interpretations of Paranoia and Paranoid. 2) Switch 'them' with (lefties, liberals, saddam lovers etc:) Then start asking who in IWETHEY best fits the patterns. Cheers Doug Marker Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003 Expand All History \| Collapse All History
Post #94,588 by CRConrad 4/5/03 6:11:36 PM Reply	And your answer to Scott in this thread WAS an example of 1.
Post #94,627 by dmarker 4/6/03 12:10:34 AM Reply	So Mr Rescuer (look it up) tossing fuel on the fire <g> Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #94,681 by CRConrad 4/6/03 4:02:28 PM Reply	No "toss", just summing up the facts after your "last" post.
Post #94,685 by dmarker 4/6/03 5:02:22 PM 4/6/03 5:04:55 PM Reply	CRC - 'facts' are there is no element of 'Them' out to get (us,me) in the exchange sequence. This is a barnyard scrap long in the brewing (based on Scott's detour back to MM etc:). It was triggered by Scott taking a poke after I made a post [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=94171\|http://z.iwethey.org...w?contentid=94171] and him making his 'excessive paranoia' quit. The most you can argue is that I am giving scott a hard time over the meaning of the words Paranoia & Paranoid. He is using a dumbed down definition in defense of his comment and I am using the accepted medical definition. That part of the scrap doesn't constitue paranoia in itself. It must also be obvious that most of us are under stress, the war (again Scott doesn't like the things I say about US/Brit involvement, he brought that up), in addition Scott has just been through a violent house storm & I am trying to land a job. All factors that make people testy. So perhaps we should just let this fire burn out even if it does not appear to have resolved anything. To Scott I say, I won't be holding any grudges, isn't it about time he got over MM etc:. Hookay Cheers Doug Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003 Edited by dmarker April 6, 2003, 05:04:55 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #94,692 by CRConrad 4/6/03 5:39:53 PM Reply	Yeah, sure, but rest assured... ...that what's "dumbed down" here is the FACT THAT YOU ARE giving Scott "a hard time" over the meaning of the words 'paranoia' and 'paranoid'. What he is using is a perfectly ordinary everyday definition that, as he showed, HAS long ago graduated from "collocquialism" to dictionary-worthy. And what DOES constitute paranoia (in THIS sense!) on your part, is your immediate jumping to the erroneous conclusion that he was (or fucking well SHOULD be -- why the HELL should he?) -- using the stupid fucking clinical "accepted medical definition". What the fuck IS this place, you think -- a clinical psychologist convention?!? Furthermore, A) If hunting for a job makes you too fucking "testy" to behave like a fucking civilized human being, why don't you just shut the fuck up until you've got one? and, B) What the FUCK kind of an excuse for "being testy" is "the war"?!? Are you labouring under the delusion that this American-Army-Live-Ammo-Excercise-cum-Televised-Video-War-Game has ANY fucking immediate bearing on ANYTHING, if you're not either i) in the American Army, ii) an Iraqi, or iii) a major Haliburton/Exxon/Shell-BP shareholder? If you are, you seriously need to get your head out of your arse. It's fucking entertainment! (_Absurd_ entertainment, yeah, sure -- but it's TOO freaking absurd to be taken as anything BUT entertainment!) BTW, you also need to do that in relation to China being in any way a paragon of fucking anything; "Cybermace" may be an annoying little twat, but he IS right that the Chinese are just thugs, and that them having been thugs for a long time is certainly nothing to drool with admiration for them about. Oh, and of course you doubly need to get your head out of your arse if you think you're going to get away with yet another instance of this highly annoying habit of yours: Repeated high-faluting gibbering about how something will be your "last post in this thread" -- and then NOT shutting the fuck up and letting someone ELSE have the last word, for fucking oncce. No fucking WAY, Bubba. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #94,874 by dmarker 4/7/03 6:15:30 PM 4/7/03 9:21:02 PM Reply	Screeching silverback slings shit, starts savage gorilla war There there BIG boy, now put that tree trunk down and while your at it you can drop those fistfuls of feces (yeccchhh, your covered in the stuff). That's it slowly does it now get back in yer frigging cage, theres a nice cold schnapps in there somewhere... CLANGGG !!! (yup, that Schnapps trick works every time) RIGHT now LOOK HERE you five foot foaming fang faced foul featured flea flecked filthy furry flatulant fecund friggin freak, thats enough! NO MORE BANNANAS for a month, and yer off the Schnapps as well. And while we are at it leave-the-friggin-Pandas-alone !!! they never did anything to annoy you. Fer chissake, it only takes a mention of how good Pandas are and you become excessively 'bear-annoyed'. And, it just isn't good enough to claim your bad behaviour was triggered because someone had ruffled the feathers of the Antarctic Owl. He can fly without your interference. Sheesh, everyone knows it is your mouth that is the scourge of this whole friggin zoo. And another complaint, you already know the Zoo's resident psychiatrist Dr Orin Ootan, and his assistant Jim Pansee, well they are seriously concerned at your repeated tendancy to oral aggression. To be sure, no one minds the odd bite here or there but you have bitten just about everyone in this damned place. SO!!! To teach you a lesson we are moving you, for a whole week, in with Mr Ali Ghayta & his whole extended family. If that doesn't cure you of your biting fetish nothing will. Orin & Jim have also reminded us of your famous and unhealty obsession with crude sexual matters. It is well known that you can hardly open your mouth without talking about sexual acts (and that is the real reason we are confiscating your bananas). Enough is enough - learn to behave, of its off to the fur factory for you big boy. Doug Marker <vbg> Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003 Edited by dmarker April 7, 2003, 07:26:08 PM EDT Edited by dmarker April 7, 2003, 09:21:02 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #94,904 by deSitter 4/7/03 7:37:55 PM Reply	Damn cobber you're pretty fired up! Can't wait to visit! I need to hang out with some Shielas! -drl Though my feet aren't on the ground, I've been standing on the sound Of some open hearted people, going down.
Post #94,922 by boxley 4/7/03 8:53:45 PM Reply	betrter off in HK even the colds carry std's there comes from snatch sneezin thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #95,000 by CRConrad 4/8/03 9:40:48 AM Reply	So, trying to make a joke of it, eh? Too fucking bad... ...for you that I was being perfectly fucking serious. ...drop those fistfuls of feces (yeccchhh, your covered in the stuff). If anyone here's got egg all over his face, it's YOU, shit-face! RIGHT now LOOK HERE you five foot foaming fang faced foul featured flea flecked filthy furry flatulant fecund friggin freak, thats enough! Five foot nine, fuckyouverymuch... And what's "enough" is, as I said, your a) stupid attack on Scott (we're still waiting for the apology, and above all, for you to even ADMIT you were wrong), b) your sickening fawning over the thuggish Chinks (not that I've checked in your silly WarGame Forum, but I'll bet you haven't retracted on that either), and c) your vapid and irrational excuses. Oh, and your pathetic attempts at what you apparently consider "humour" are getting pretty old, too. Yes, right from the get-go -- they're born stale. NO MORE BANNANAS for a month, and yer off the Schnapps as well. If anyone needs to lay off the sauce, it is you, Bubba -- then maybe you'll be able to spell 'banana'. And while we are at it leave-the-friggin-Pandas-alone !!! they never did anything to annoy you. Fer chissake, it only takes a mention of how good Pandas are and you become excessively 'bear-annoyed'. Pandas suck. And, since it seems you're using "pandas" as a code-word for Chinese, they suck too. And, it just isn't good enough to claim your bad behaviour was triggered because someone had ruffled the feathers of the Antarctic Owl. He can fly without your interference. Sheesh, everyone knows it is your mouth that is the scourge of this whole friggin zoo. Huh?!? What fucking "owl" are you gibbering about? (Norm's buddy? But he's a she, and has nothing what-the-fuck-ever to do with this...) Scott? Yeah, of fucking COURSE he can defend himself -- but then, who the fuck said it was him I was "defending"?!? It's myself I'm trying to protect -- from having to read too much more of your UTTER FUCKING DRIVEL! And another complaint, you already know the Zoo's resident psychiatrist Dr Orin Ootan, and his assistant Jim Pansee, well they are seriously concerned at your repeated tendancy to oral aggression. Fuck your monkey buddies, Bubba... You know that's what you really want to do, you old simiophile, so go ahead; don't let me stop you. To be sure, no one minds the odd bite here or there but you have bitten just about everyone in this damned place. Only when they needed it. And you, Mister Magic Marker, were long overdue. Orin & Jim have also reminded us of your famous and unhealty obsession with crude sexual matters. It is well known that you can hardly open your mouth without talking about sexual acts (and that is the real reason we are confiscating your bananas). As I said, fuck your furry buddies, and fuck you too. If that's too awkward (what, not even if you stand on a chair?), then let them do it... Anyway, the bananas-as-phallos-symbols gimmick is, I would have thought, too crudely simplistic even for a simpering baboon like you. Enough is enough - learn to behave, of its off to the fur factory for you big boy. And to the glue factory with you -- or is that only horses' bones they make glue from, not horses' arses? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #96,035 by screamer 4/11/03 11:19:50 AM Reply	Can I use this? Fuck your monkey buddies, Bubba... You know that's what you really want to do, you old simiophile, so go ahead; don't let me stop you. Although some may protest (and Doug, not a comment on this thread's "merits"), I vote this as one of CRC's more quotable lines... Just giving credit where credit is due, Screamer Living is easy with eyes closed misunderstanding all you see, it's getting hard to be someone but it all works out it doesn't matter much to me J. Lennon - Strawberry Fields Forever
Post #96,036 by inthane-chan 4/11/03 11:22:47 AM Reply	ObSentientLRPD: "Possibly."
Post #96,131 by CRConrad 4/11/03 7:58:17 PM Reply	Depends... El Screamo: [Can I] use this? Fuck your monkey buddies, Bubba... You know that's what you really want to do, you old simiophile, so go ahead; don't let me stop you. What for? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #96,133 by Ashton 4/11/03 8:02:39 PM Reply	\ufffd Snidely Whiplash (betcha don't know Who He?) {snort}
Post #96,138 by CRConrad 4/11/03 8:10:35 PM Reply	No, gotta admit I don't... ...know who "Snidely Whiplash" is. Judging from the name itself, though, I think I can say it belongs in quotation marks... Further enlightenment welcome. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #96,139 by Another Scott 4/11/03 8:16:02 PM Reply	You don't know "Dudley Do-Right"?!?! No wonder you're so confused about all the goodness in everything American. Sheesh! [link\|http://flyingmoose.org/moose/whiplash.htm\|Dudley Do-Right] for the Google impaired. And no, I don't care that Dudley was a Canadian Mountie! So there! :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #96,145 by CRConrad 4/11/03 8:22:43 PM Reply	"Oh, my darling Clementine..." Of bloody course I know Dudley! Fuck, I practically AM Dudley Do-Right! (OK, except for my use of strong language.) How the FUCK does me not remembering some OTHER guy imply I don't know Dudley?!? (It doesn't, except you don't know DIDDLY!) Hey, it's been two or three decades since I used to watch him on the tube, so it's no big fucking wonder I'd forgotten the name of the standing villain (? or, again judging from the name, possibly a lawyer), is it? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #96,127 by Ashton 4/11/03 7:45:07 PM Reply	Penalty flag - ecological Super-Fund site Such hydrocoptic virtuosity wasted on a mere bagatelle..! Now let's get down to animal husbandry and survival of the species: First - ya need to fabricate some 'Press' credentials. Then - the zIWE Irregulars pass-hat for steerage passage + pretzels. Last - somehow we gets ya into the White House as furrin Press THEN.. You Ask Ari a Question. With er 'follow-up'. Got it?
Post #94,702 by orion 4/6/03 6:34:00 PM Reply	Give it up already quit being, for lack of a better word, a me. This argument can server no further purpose than to keep the flames going. My advice to you is to just end your posts, and don't reply to any more of them in this thread and let it go. Life goes on without more gas on the fire. "Bill gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?" -John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link\|http://www.farscape.com\|FarScape]
Post #94,731 by dmarker 4/6/03 10:36:00 PM Reply	10 points - your post & advice good <g> Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #94,747 by Ashton 4/6/03 11:46:11 PM Reply	12 points for self-effacing aptness :-\ufffd

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