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It's been a while. My understanding is that the various
books of the "Old Testament" were written by a whole
bunch if different groups of rabbis. They were rewritten
many times, and had to go through an approval process
that included the Pope. So while it interests me, I
certainly don't ascribe any divinity to it.

Of course, being one of the "Chosen People", to me any
followers of any newer religions are just some newage
cult mindless zombies. (And if you don't see the
humor/sarcasm here, you now realize why I usually don't
engage in these conversations.)

As far as 'lie' I meant professing any belief that he
didn't feel, which I consider courageous considering
the pressure he is under to 'conform'.
New Approval by the Pope? What?
The current Christian scripture was set by the Council of Nicea, in something like 300 AD. At that time, the catholic church had nothing llke the structure it has today. There was no supposed infallable pope at the time; for that matter, the council was convened by Constantine.

And if you believe any Jew would accept the authority of a Christian pope over their holy writings, you're crazy.

*My* understanding is that scholars think some of the Old Testament books were written by several people, and others by one, and some may have been pre-dated to have the appearance of authenticity.
Rest in peace, Jeremy, Mark, Thomas, and whoever else who helped overpower the hijackers on Flight 93.
New Pope and the Old Testament
It's been a while. My understanding is that the various books of the "Old Testament" were written by a whole bunch if different groups of rabbis. They were rewritten many times, and had to go through an approval process that included the Pope. So while it interests me, I certainly don't ascribe any divinity to it.
Never heard that one before. For the record, the Jewish canon was codified somewhere around 90AD, some 200 to 300 years prior to Constantine, and definitely prior to Christianity becoming a world force.

One of the disagreements with Christianity was the difference over the Septuagint, which was the Greek translation. For one thing, the Septuagint had some 72 books, as opposed to the 66 books of the Jewish canon. This disagreement was to become an issue in the Reformation as the Protestants embraced the 66 books as being the Old Testament, while the Catholics went with 72 books (IIRC, the Orthodox Christian bible OT has 76).
New Re: Pope and the Old Testament
Here's one link which says a bit about
various "rewrites" and the timing involved.

[link|http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03267a.htm|http://www.newadven...n/03267a.htm]

I have NO idea of the validity. I try not to
get into these types of discussions because the
bottom line is that it almost always involves:
"My passionate ignorance is more powerful than your
indifferent ignorance" arguments. I acknowledge my
ignorance, and my inability to judge. How do I even
know the Torah that I see today is the same as the
original? And WHICH original?

One key thing to remember is history is written by
the winners, and we have no time machines to go
look.

And as Addison pointed out, there is a lot to abhor
no matter who wrote it or when.
     I've got to wonder - (Steven A S) - (14)
         Its a matter.. - (addison) - (7)
             Don't like it - (broomberg) - (6)
                 Another question. - (addison) - (5)
                     Re: Catholics have a related process ... - (dmarker2)
                     Many questions - (broomberg) - (3)
                         Approval by the Pope? What? - (wharris2)
                         Pope and the Old Testament - (ChrisR) - (1)
                             Re: Pope and the Old Testament - (broomberg)
         Very good point. -NT - (kmself)
         well when I was in chi in may a fellow trainee was Saudi - (boxley) - (4)
             Interesting thought, that last. - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Excommunication is a non-violent fatwa -NT - (GBert) - (1)
                     the penalties for heresy are a tad hot^h^harsher - (boxley)
             Very good points - (GBert)

It's smarter than you think.
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