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New Agreed - your priority (ought to be) unarguable.
And it is.. in civilized countries, those who deal with $-matters, costs as all must -- but are not obsessed with making every single pharm-chem and peripheral supplier obscenely rich: for every aspirin. (The perhaps last? often effective post-patent-scam 'drug' we'll see).

Still, and before the above might occur in the US, I think that the hegemony of the AMA - as much a Political Corporation as any of the other usual suspects - must be broken. {somehow}

It is not that allopathic medicine is perfectly unsuitable for actual maintenance of health via our cockamamie concept of treating the symptoms of disease. It is that, in mine and the opinions of millions worldwide: there is something fatally flawed in the way we condition wannabe medicos, who are rote-conditioned to seek a pharm-chem solution for Every office call. Yada & yada. This 'paradigm' battle is hardly new - but nowhere in the world is terminal Pigheadedness as rife as in our Corporatocracy.

At any rate.. I don't think even our bloated Corp dominated approach to all matters concerning real life -- can much longer sustain the horrendous burden of "making health care Profitable" -- with the same class-delineated pay scales. We are simply blind to the possibility of running such an enterprise on *salary* and without the Big Gold Ring of some participants being 'worth' $1000/hr. while the massive daily care is relgated to $7.50/hr workers: often WITHOUT any health care of their own. Much is siphioned-off into the Armani-suited drones of Insurance, the longest-running Econ-scam of all time.

ie the Murican System (as in Edu and so many other areas) is so fucking broken.. it's not even Wrong.

Fie on Stupidity; specially Institutionalized Stupidity set in concrete from decades of non-thought. What our health system needs is an Advocate of the perspicuity of a (Ben Tilly's find) [link|http://www.preservenet.com/theory/Gatto.html| John Gatto]. Instead we get fucking indoctrinated Econ-theoreticians or failed University students who couldn't make it is a Gym instructor - so went for an MBA. No brains or heart required, merely cupidity at its most primitive level.

Luck to us all. Revolution is hard, and we have become soft as McJellyfish swimming in the Mall aquarium. Should we reclaim Language, the bafflegab of Econ-minds could be dispatched along with its tawdry definitions of The Good life\ufffd.


Ashton

(And were ours not such a Perpetual Death-fear culture, with roots in lugubrious Puritanism, that HUGE balloon payment.. whereby the terminal will Pay Any Price for another 10 minutes of laboured breathing -- would still occur -- but not nearly to the degree we budget for now. But that's quite another thread. ;-)
New Once again we are in complete agreement.
bcnu,
Mikem

Osama bin Laden's brother could fly in US airspace 9/15/01, but I had to wait for FBI and CIA background checks, 'nuff said?
     If marlowe keeps posting here, we need a forum name change. - (mmoffitt) - (30)
         Thats a good start - How about Propaganda Forum or - (dmarker) - (1)
             C'mon - (Silverlock)
         Split the forum? - (gdaustin) - (27)
             hardly - (boxley) - (18)
                 How? - (gdaustin) - (1)
                     wrong sentence but 7years? - (boxley)
                 Hey Box - that moi - yo callin skeptic (by a septic <g>) - (dmarker) - (15)
                     But.. to accept such a label - means - (Ashton) - (14)
                         begging to differ - (rcareaga) - (13)
                             And you owe nothing to future generations? - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                 Screw posterity. What have those bastards ever done for us? - (rcareaga) - (11)
                                     The future generation is making me go broke!!! -NT - (ChrisR)
                                     My exception was to your statement to Ashton that... - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                         "This implies that nothing that follows you matters" - (rcareaga) - (7)
                                             Now that is curious and explains something. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                                 "For the Cheeldrun", then - - (Ashton) - (5)
                                                     As somebody who will probably have children... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                         As somebody who HAS children - (jake123)
                                                     "sacrificing for the future" == future generations. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                         Agreed - your priority (ought to be) unarguable. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                             Once again we are in complete agreement. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                     sorry the bushreich is already retarded -NT - (boxley)
             Eh? - (admin) - (5)
                 Your comments to Brandioch - (gdaustin) - (4)
                     Definitely in the middle. - (admin) - (3)
                         The fencepost...like undergarments... - (bepatient) - (2)
                             "if there is such a thing" - (admin) - (1)
                                 I say..I say... - (bepatient)
             Skeptics - (orion) - (1)
                 Re: Skeptics - (rcareaga)

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