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Post #92,246 by jake123 3/27/03 5:19:07 PM Reply	I think the real question is What do Iraqis find preferable? Saddam Hussein, or a US invasion? I have the feeling the answer to that is "Saddam Hussein" for most of them. Another way to put it is "better the devil you know than the devil you don't." As Jester said, it would have helped if the US hadn't hung regime changers out to dry in the past; this is well within living memory for the people in Basra, and they know exactly why it happened: in the judgement of the USA in '91, Saddam Hussein was better than a religious Shia government. They probably think that's still the case from the US point of view, and they would simply be changing oppressors from one of the locals (who is at least muslim, if not Shia) to the crusaders from across the sea. There certainly hasn't been any indication that the US plans on respecting their wishes in governance; to the contrary, the US is making it clear they plan on turning Iraq into a clone of the US. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #92,255 by Brandioch 3/27/03 6:16:04 PM Reply	Give that man a cigar! Why are we there? Because Saddam has nukes? None found and none use, even when his life is threatened. Because Saddam has bio weapons? None found and none use, even when his life is threatened. Because Saddam has chem weapons? None found and none use, even when his life is threatened. Because Saddam has ties to terrorists? The only "ties" found are the flimsiest we could manufacture. Meanwhile, other regimes there have DEFINATE ties to terrorists. Because we want to "Free" the Iraqis? They seem to prefer Saddam over a US invasion. And so on and so on and so on. Until we end at: Because Saddam has not, technically, complied with all of the rules on disarming. Saddam was no threat to the US or any of his neighbors. This war has shown that.
Post #92,281 by dmarker 3/27/03 7:15:49 PM Reply	You nailed it !!! Cheers Doug. Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003

Meanwhile back at the ranch... - (screamer) - (12) - March 27, 2003, 01:03:05 PM EST

I especially like the last line of the following link... - (screamer) - (8) - March 27, 2003, 01:15:17 PM EST

Love that binary logic. - (Brandioch) - (7) - March 27, 2003, 01:27:29 PM EST

How, I must of missed the "logic" - (screamer) - (6) - March 27, 2003, 04:23:21 PM EST

Off the top of m' head... - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - March 27, 2003, 04:35:26 PM EST

In other words... - (screamer) - (4) - March 27, 2003, 05:11:41 PM EST

I think the real question is - (jake123) - (2) - March 27, 2003, 05:19:07 PM EST

Give that man a cigar! - (Brandioch) - March 27, 2003, 06:16:04 PM EST

You nailed it !!! - (dmarker) - March 27, 2003, 07:15:49 PM EST

Chickenhawks, armchair general...concern citizens. - (Simon_Jester) - March 27, 2003, 09:59:40 PM EST

Why isn't this on the News? - (gdaustin) - (2) - March 27, 2003, 06:12:18 PM EST

Because as propaganda - it appears over the top - (dmarker) - (1) - March 27, 2003, 07:23:57 PM EST

You make it sound so complicated. -NT - (Brandioch) - March 28, 2003, 12:42:42 AM EST

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