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Post #92,054
by ChrisR
3/26/03 9:34:29 PM
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New But...
...it's not really a War either - since only Congress can Constitutionally declare a War.

Since we can't call it a War, let's call it something like a "Peace Action".
Post #92,074
by cybermace5
3/26/03 10:28:27 PM
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New Technically...
...it's a continuation of Desert Storm, due to Iraq's continual breaking of the cease-fire agreement, we don't have to follow it anymore either....
Post #92,086
by ChrisR
3/26/03 11:27:49 PM
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New Correct me if I'm wrong...
...but technically Desert Storm wasn't a declared War either.
Post #92,091
by gdaustin
3/26/03 11:41:50 PM
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New Congress can't really declare a War anymore...
Because many loan and insurance documents contain legal language with the phrase "Act of War".

If a war is declared many insurance policies are null and void. Insurers can't insure for war, banks and finance companies cannot loan money if insurance can't be obtained.

Heck, some bank/finance companies may even hold the right to demand notes be paid off at the declaration of war.

So, I think the reason no war has been declared since 1941 is because we owe too much money, and we can't afford the consequences.
Post #92,094
by ChrisR
3/26/03 11:54:20 PM
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New These Acts of War cover....
...both Declared and Undeclared Wars. Indeed, there was some discussion after 9-11 by the Insurance Companies to not pay the policies based on it being an Act of War. The reason they didn't wasn't because the policies were bound to a formal Congressional Declaration, but rather it would have been a public relations disaster for the companies (inviting intense scrutiny in the future).

At any rate, we still can't technically call these things Wars.
     Illegal war? as in Illegal because congress didnt delare it - (boxley) - (27) - March 26, 2003, 08:59:18 PM EST
         Yes, I am a citizen of the United States. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - March 26, 2003, 09:01:04 PM EST
             fair enuff, thanx -NT - (boxley) - March 26, 2003, 09:02:06 PM EST
             Speaking of which. - (ChrisR) - (6) - March 26, 2003, 09:07:32 PM EST
                 The French are better Americans than we are. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - March 26, 2003, 09:11:30 PM EST
                     D00d...relax -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (4) - March 26, 2003, 09:14:51 PM EST
                         RELAX - HELL! - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 26, 2003, 09:17:36 PM EST
                             If you believe in Democracy (or even a Republic) - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - March 26, 2003, 09:45:15 PM EST
                                 You know what bothers me about that? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 26, 2003, 09:50:09 PM EST
                                     <chuckle> you do pick the good ones, don't you? - (Simon_Jester) - March 26, 2003, 09:53:44 PM EST
             But, the US Congress gave Bush a blank check! - (a6l6e6x) - (10) - March 26, 2003, 09:09:36 PM EST
                 Understood. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - March 26, 2003, 09:12:26 PM EST
                     But... - (bepatient) - (7) - March 26, 2003, 09:30:01 PM EST
                         But... - (ChrisR) - (4) - March 26, 2003, 09:34:29 PM EST
                             Technically... - (cybermace5) - (3) - March 26, 2003, 10:28:27 PM EST
                                 Correct me if I'm wrong... - (ChrisR) - (2) - March 26, 2003, 11:27:49 PM EST
                                     Congress can't really declare a War anymore... - (gdaustin) - (1) - March 26, 2003, 11:41:50 PM EST
                                         These Acts of War cover.... - (ChrisR) - March 26, 2003, 11:54:20 PM EST
                         Wrong. Congress cannot obsolve itself of its duty. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 26, 2003, 09:36:13 PM EST
                             Im pro the war but On the legalities you are right - (boxley) - March 26, 2003, 09:41:48 PM EST
                 There's no blank check. Congress controls the checkbook. - (Another Scott) - March 26, 2003, 10:40:53 PM EST
         Told you, you wanted 1441... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - March 26, 2003, 09:28:55 PM EST
             nothing in 1441 abrogated 678 - (boxley) - March 26, 2003, 09:40:08 PM EST
         Been addressed already. - (Brandioch) - (4) - March 27, 2003, 10:29:34 AM EST
             ROFL dont beleive the salesman, read the contract -NT - (boxley) - (3) - March 27, 2003, 10:57:56 AM EST
                 You skipped reading that article again, didn't you? -NT - (Brandioch) - (2) - March 27, 2003, 11:16:51 AM EST
                     yes, I read your quote and replied to that - (boxley) - (1) - March 27, 2003, 11:54:52 AM EST
                         Yep, I thought so. Again. -NT - (Brandioch) - March 27, 2003, 12:20:55 PM EST

I think coming back from the summit was the rather more important achievement.
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