Post #91,902
3/26/03 3:31:13 PM
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Re: I think I am beginning to understand LOTR the movie
I am in all likelihood never going to read the books or see the movies. Can someone tell me what all the excitement is about?
-drl
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Post #91,903
3/26/03 3:35:16 PM
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What's the point then?
Good books. Good movies. Read/see them to be entertained. Or Not. Your decision. :-)
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #91,905
3/26/03 3:38:03 PM
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Re: What's the point then?
No, no quite what I meant - I don't have time. I would rent the movie if someone could tell me what the whole thing was about in a general sense (e.g. Star Wars is a psycho-drama about "sins of the father" etc.)
-drl
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Post #91,906
3/26/03 3:39:30 PM
3/26/03 3:41:45 PM
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Rent the movie.
Watch it. Or not. Either you have 3 hours to watch a good fantasy film, or you do not have 3 hours. The story-line shouldn't matter in that decision.
By the way, rent the extended version if you can. It has an extra 30 minutes of material that would make the film easier to follow if you haven't read the books.
Incidentally, both films won Oscars, FWIW.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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March 26, 2003, 03:41:45 PM EST
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Post #91,904
3/26/03 3:36:18 PM
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LOTR is considered by many as the best novel of 20th century
Explain why so many think so? Nah, your loss.
The world is only a simple place to the simple.
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Post #91,910
3/26/03 3:49:35 PM
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Vox populi, vox dei
"LOTR is considered by many as the best novel of 20th century"
Take that, Proust! Take that, Joyce! And you over there, yeah, Nabokov, this is for you...!
I admit that it's been a l-o-o-o-ng time since I read Tolkien (35--no, closer to 36 years), but notwithstanding what I recall to have been intermittently diverting entertainment value, it's difficult not to think that anyone who would award LOTR the laurels just wasn't paying attention during the century under consideration.
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #91,916
3/26/03 3:55:32 PM
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Might have to qualify that "best"...
...within the genre of Fantasy....
..or you are correct...the "ranker" just wasn't paying attention.
And I love the books...and have read them multiple times...but "Best of the Century"...nope, don't think so.
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Post #91,921
3/26/03 4:05:35 PM
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best of genre perhaps but conrad, mailer(early stuff)
steinbeck, Solzhenitsyn and many others.
thanx,
bill
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Post #91,926
3/26/03 4:11:55 PM
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Only so much room in subject line
Sorry, I should have expanded in the message body. The best fantasy novel of the twentieth century.
Although I am sure there are some who consider it the best novel of any genre.
The world is only a simple place to the simple.
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Post #91,956
3/26/03 5:37:00 PM
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Even within that genre
Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy eclipses LOTR on any number of levels - descriptive power, emotive content, characterisation, plot, etc.
LOTR is basically a meditation on language and God. There's precious little plot or characterisation there.
Peter
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Post #91,932
3/26/03 4:32:01 PM
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So who's this Homer guy everybody talks about?
I am in all likelihood never going to read or see any of his stories or plays. Can someone tell me what all the excitement is about?
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Post #91,935
3/26/03 4:34:12 PM
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Its about the head of a family in Springfield America
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Post #91,936
3/26/03 4:35:28 PM
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point==missed;
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Post #91,938
3/26/03 4:36:29 PM
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joke!=gotten the blind poet is the other guy
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Post #91,950
3/26/03 5:04:01 PM
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Naw, was talking about you... Got the joke. :)
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the wise cannot see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
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Post #91,933
3/26/03 4:32:16 PM
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So who's this Shakespeare guy everybody talks about?
I am in all likelihood never going to read or see any of his plays. Can someone tell me what all the excitement is about?
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #91,934
3/26/03 4:33:09 PM
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So who are these Dumas guys everybody talks about?
I am in all likelihood never going to read any of their books. Can someone tell me what all the excitement is about?
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #91,937
3/26/03 4:35:54 PM
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dumas is spelled dumass
if you are talking about the writer we were discussing 20th century folks.
thanx,
bill
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Post #91,943
3/26/03 4:44:26 PM
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Naah - for *you* (and Ross), it's spelled "dumb-bell".
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