Then scrap your previous plan.

Post #90,664 by Brandioch 3/23/03 11:50:11 AM Reply	Then scrap your previous plan. That's the WHOLE point. What has been done is NOT working. Nor do I see any way that it WOULD work. All I keep seeing is excuses for why you have to keep killing them. And their excuses for why they have to keep killing you. And the "justification" for both based on how someone killed someone else 50 years ago.
Post #90,667 by bluke 3/23/03 11:52:14 AM 3/23/03 11:54:28 AM Reply	What do you suggest? As I said it takes 2 sides to make peace. In fact, Barak did exactly that, he said enough interim agreements lets make a deal and made a very generous offer, basically all the West Bank and Gaza and a compromise on Jerusalem. We all know how Arafat responded. Edited by bluke March 23, 2003, 11:54:28 AM EST Expand All History
Post #90,699 by Brandioch 3/23/03 1:02:04 PM Reply	Actually, that depends upon your view. As I said it takes 2 sides to make peace. That is true, if you see the world as "us" against "them". In reality, there are MANY sides in this issue. Israel's problem is that it treats ALL the Palestinians as terrorists. That is why Israel does not see a problem with rocket attacks against an apartment building, as long as Israel kills the "bad guy" it was going after. Even Yasser has/had to deal with different factions in his organization. Work towards reducing the problem. Find the factions that Israel can work with and help them expand their power base. Work with the other nations there and through the UN to get those factions some land of their own. It doesn't all have to come from Israel. Hell, you have the maps. Offer them something GOOD like the chunk where Egypt, Israel and Saudi Arabia and Jordan meet. It's water front property. I'd have a bit of trouble selling that to Jordan, but it could be done. If not there, slice bit from Israel, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria. They'd end up with access to the Mediterranean Sea. If you can't stand for that either, then move them over the Gaza strip and run it up along the border 'tween Egypt and Israel. But get the UN to buy into it so you can get UN support for weeding out any terrorists (without helicopters shooting apartments) that try to setup a home there. No Palestinian is born a terrorist. They can be raised that way. And Israel can help raise them that way. Or Israel can help those who are NOT terrorists to setup a better life for themselves.
Post #90,733 by boxley 3/23/03 3:28:13 PM Reply	another vote for transfer YES :-) will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] To a lot of people in California hunting anything but the wild tofualope was equivelent to sacarificing babies to satan. S.M. Stirling
Post #90,739 by Brandioch 3/23/03 3:52:18 PM Reply	Not far and to a GOOD spot. And that most likely means that some people in Israel will have to move. And this will NOT be all of the Palestinians. This will be small factions that are willing to live in peace with the Jews. So, initially, the Palestinians would have MORE land and Israel would have LESS land. I trust that you've looked at maps of the area. Any problems with the locations I've picked?
Post #90,743 by boxley 3/23/03 3:55:15 PM Reply	Nope, I dont live there so its fine with me as long as there is a defensible spot for me to get to if needed. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] To a lot of people in California hunting anything but the wild tofualope was equivelent to sacarificing babies to satan. S.M. Stirling

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