rdesktop / Windows Terminal Services

I'm working in a legacy MS Windows environment. It bogs. This isn't\r\na matter of sticking with GNU/Linux -- I'm switching to it, but looking\r\nfor interop with a largely legacy MS Windows environment. Including the\r\nability to run an MS Windows desktop for some purposes.

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I'm an independent contractor. I can supply my own tools and\r\nmaterials. I'm planning on supplying a GNU/Linux system, in the form of\r\na mini-PC I can lug with me where I go. I still need to be able to work\r\nwith some tools (noteably SAS, for which the GNU/Linux alternative is a\r\n$6k out-of-pocket expense) which require legacy MS Windows. I'm happier\r\nworking principally in GNU/Linux, with the alternate in a VPN box, than\r\nthe other way around. Among other things, I can map and/or unbind\r\nhotkeys more flexibly under GNU/Linux, and I live and die by my hotkey\r\nbindings. Too: though Cygwin's nice enough, there are only a certain\r\nnumber of packages available for it, and the packaging itself sucks.\r\nI've wrestled several times with simply printing (or creating) usable\r\npostscript files. I'd prefer a full-blooded GNU/Linux system.

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I'd also like to introduce GNU/Linux to the client for a number of\r\nother reasons -- to demonstrate its viability (I'm not cramming it down\r\ntheir throats, I'm showing it's a useable desktop system), to introduce\r\nsome tools (in particular TWiki -- they desperately\r\nneed a documentation system, preferably one that works), and just using\r\nit in their world. I prefer the low-key approach, there's been some\r\ncasual interest expressed. Perhaps the demonstration will be\r\nfruitful.

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Still, I'm going to need desktop access to the existing legacy MS\r\nWindows system. Some of this I can bypass via fileshare (Samba-mounting\r\nfileshares -- this under an NT-managed domain, may be interesting), some\r\nvia ssh access to the 2K box (I'm planning to test whether or not SAS\r\ncan be run batch mode this way, which would be slick), some via WINE\r\nrunning legacy MS Windows apps either over the Samba share, or by\r\ncreating installs of apps on the GNU/Linux box itself. With all of\r\nthat, there's still a need for desktop compatibility. Hence VNC.

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Crawl back into your hole, Ross.

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Post #89,860 by kmself 3/20/03 5:35:19 PM Reply	rdesktop / Windows Terminal Services - Win2K Pro? I'm investigating remote access options for a Win2K workstation. Does Windows Terminal Services (or another service providing session sharing) run under Win2K professional (not server), and can it be accessed via rdesktop? --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
Post #89,870 by Yendor 3/20/03 6:14:20 PM Reply	Re: rdesktop / Windows Terminal Services - Win2K Pro? Does Windows Terminal Services (or another service providing session sharing) run under Win2K professional (not server) No answer for this... can it be accessed via rdesktop? Yes. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #89,872 by pwhysall 3/20/03 6:19:23 PM Reply	Re: rdesktop / Windows Terminal Services - Win2K Pro? No. Yes. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #89,882 by kmself 3/20/03 7:00:04 PM Reply	Other alternatives? Currently my fallback is VNC. Run full screen in its own unmanaged X session, this works pretty well in my experience. Other suggestions appreciated. The tool used here generally is NetOp Remote Control. Linux client available for $$. --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
Post #89,885 by pwhysall 3/20/03 7:27:53 PM Reply	VNC is just about it. Get TightVNC rather than the vanilla version, though. It performs better. Windows XP Pro does have RDP remote control. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #89,896 by kmself 3/20/03 8:19:12 PM Reply	Tight Dig. Already installed. Funhouse mirrors effect appreciated for several minutes. Now to get a real desktop (it's being shipped....) --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
Post #89,921 by orion 3/20/03 10:04:39 PM Reply	Re: rdesktop / Windows Terminal Services - Win2K Pro? Windows Terminal Services reqires a software license code from Microsoft to use it , except for the administrative mode which has limitations. As far as I know, 2000 Pro won't run the server end of Terminal Services, but will run the client end. VNC may be the way to go, unless you want to pay for Symantec's PCAnywhere. "Bill gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?" -John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link\|http://www.farscape.com\|FarScape]
Post #89,925 by deSitter 3/20/03 10:08:59 PM Reply	Idiotic Question You act as this were a file share. Stick to Linux. -drl
Post #89,972 by kmself 3/21/03 1:21:46 AM 3/21/03 1:29:57 AM Reply	Expected, given the source I'm working in a legacy MS Windows environment. It bogs. This isn't\r\na matter of sticking with GNU/Linux -- I'm switching to it, but looking\r\nfor interop with a largely legacy MS Windows environment. Including the\r\nability to run an MS Windows desktop for some purposes. \r\n\r\n I'm an independent contractor. I can supply my own tools and\r\nmaterials. I'm planning on supplying a GNU/Linux system, in the form of\r\na mini-PC I can lug with me where I go. I still need to be able to work\r\nwith some tools (noteably SAS, for which the GNU/Linux alternative is a\r\n$6k out-of-pocket expense) which require legacy MS Windows. I'm happier\r\nworking principally in GNU/Linux, with the alternate in a VPN box, than\r\nthe other way around. Among other things, I can map and/or unbind\r\nhotkeys more flexibly under GNU/Linux, and I live and die by my hotkey\r\nbindings. Too: though Cygwin's nice enough, there are only a certain\r\nnumber of packages available for it, and the packaging itself sucks.\r\nI've wrestled several times with simply printing (or creating) usable\r\npostscript files. I'd prefer a full-blooded GNU/Linux system. \r\n\r\n I'd also like to introduce GNU/Linux to the client for a number of\r\nother reasons -- to demonstrate its viability (I'm not cramming it down\r\ntheir throats, I'm showing it's a useable desktop system), to introduce\r\nsome tools (in particular TWiki -- they desperately\r\nneed a documentation system, preferably one that works), and just using\r\nit in their world. I prefer the low-key approach, there's been some\r\ncasual interest expressed. Perhaps the demonstration will be\r\nfruitful. \r\n\r\n Still, I'm going to need desktop access to the existing legacy MS\r\nWindows system. Some of this I can bypass via fileshare (Samba-mounting\r\nfileshares -- this under an NT-managed domain, may be interesting), some\r\nvia ssh access to the 2K box (I'm planning to test whether or not SAS\r\ncan be run batch mode this way, which would be slick), some via WINE\r\nrunning legacy MS Windows apps either over the Samba share, or by\r\ncreating installs of apps on the GNU/Linux box itself. With all of\r\nthat, there's still a need for desktop compatibility. Hence VNC. \r\n\r\n Crawl back into your hole, Ross. \r\n --\r\n Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/\|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n Edited by kmself March 21, 2003, 01:29:57 AM EST Expand All History

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