True...

Post #89,823

3/20/03 3:03:17 PM

True...

Okay, I see we've managed to lose the ORIGINAL point which was whether Iraq had any "WMD's".

We are NOT "raising" Iraq therefore, your analogy fails.

True we are not raising Iraq, but we are doing the same thing as raising it. Lack of training and use of in-action cause them to become beligerant (sp)...

But, Why is it that many countries *INCLUDING* the UN (not a country but an org) come to the US to help fix things... why all of a sudden when we want something fixed they WON'T do it. It's hogwash...

then WHY do we have to kill Iraqi children NOW?

Why does Iraq itself do that? So I guess that makes us equal there...

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Post #89,828

by Brandioch

3/20/03 3:18:45 PM

You claim we are raising Iraq?

True we are not raising Iraq, but we are doing the same thing as raising it. Lack of training and use of in-action cause them to become beligerant (sp)...

Saddam is NOT an adult? I'm sure that Saddam's personality was developed LONG before now.

Or haven't you read how he became the leader of Iraq?

But, Why is it that many countries *INCLUDING* the UN (not a country but an org) come to the US to help fix things... why all of a sudden when we want something fixed they WON'T do it. It's hogwash...

Okay, the UN is NOT asking the US to invade Iraq.

In fact, the majority of the members of the UN were set to vote AGAINST the US's resolution that would have resulted in an invasion of Iraq.

Or are you one of those that believe that because we helped out other countries, that they SHOULD support us even when what we want conflicts with their beliefs?

It seems from your statement that you are.

Post #89,844

by folkert

3/20/03 4:42:52 PM

We help them when ...

it is against our beliefs... why should they be able to not do the same.

To bad, I guess you will just have to deal with it.

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Post #89,847

by Brandioch

3/20/03 4:49:57 PM

"We help them when ... it is against our beliefs..."

I'm sure you can provide three examples of such.

Go ahead.

I say that we have NOT supported the UN when it was against our beliefs.

Post #89,875

by jake123

3/20/03 6:27:38 PM

Re: True...

But, Why is it that many countries *INCLUDING* the UN (not a country but an org) come to the US to help fix things... why all of a sudden when we want something fixed they WON'T do it. It's hogwash...

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We (Canada) have not come to you to "fix" things for us ever in my experience. We did help you in the war in Afghanistan, in the last Gulf War, in Kosovo, and in many other conflicts over the years. The notable exception to this was the war in Vietnam; we declined to participate in that one too. Maybe you need to reexamine your understanding of the world, because the statement above is a complete crock of shit. Maybe you should ask yourself why Canada does not want to participate; it was the current party (Liberal Party of Canada) and Prime Minister (Chretien) that undertook to help in Kosovo and Afghanistan, and it was the other party (Progressive Conservative party under Brian Mulroney) that undertook to help in Gulf War I. Why do you think we are saying no this time? Maybe you should find out.

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Like I said in another post, the *last time* we declined to lend a hand in one of your wars was Vietnam, and we all know how well that turned out for you guys. We are the country most like yours in all the world, and you know what? we like you guys, despite the fulminations that come out from tourettic MPs from time to time. We are the closest to you in cultural mores and values of anyplace else on earth. Maybe you should be asking "Why would Canada not join with us on this one?"

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