Welp, gotta eat crow

Post #8,969 by wharris2 9/13/01 7:52:31 PM Reply	Welp, gotta eat crow I've been reading articles about how they called in a priest to give them the last rites before they went in. That's not the actions of someone engaging in a calculated risk. That no man should scruple, or hesitate a moment to use arms in defense of so valuable a blessing [as freedom], on which all the good and evil of life depends, is clearly my opinion; yet arms ... should be the last resource. - George Washington
Post #8,990 by marlowe 9/13/01 10:01:05 PM Reply	Not a calculated risk? An important aspect of calculated risk is that you do what you can to cover all bases. I'm not really up on the finer points of Catholic theology. If you get the last rites, and then haven't the good grace to die promptly, is there some kind of karmic penalty? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html]
Post #9,000 by wharris2 9/13/01 10:24:25 PM Reply	Different sort of risk If I understand it correctly, Catholic priests don't normally give last rites to people who don't expect to die. These people, apparently, thought they were going to die. That's not a firefighter's "calculated risk" type of thing. It's a "I'm going into harm's way and I don't think I'll survive" type of thing. That no man should scruple, or hesitate a moment to use arms in defense of so valuable a blessing [as freedom], on which all the good and evil of life depends, is clearly my opinion; yet arms ... should be the last resource. - George Washington
Post #9,087 by mhuber 9/14/01 12:05:31 PM Reply	No karmic penalty Last Rites (which we are now supposed to call "Annointing of the Sick") is not reserved for the dying, and not one of the one-shot sacraments. Asking for the sacrament doesn't imply that you think you are checking out. But it does imply you have death on your mind. The (grossly oversimplified by someone who hasn't given it all that much thought) idea is to connect your current or upcoming crisis to that of Christ. It is encouraged, and there is no shame or penalty for using it when the situation turns out not be lethal. Some people use it for illnesses that are just very unpleasant and not terminal. Unless there is a custom among firefighters that I'm not aware of (not at all unlikely) it isn't something they would do for a routine fire. On the other hand, it doesn't imply a suicide mission. ---- sig suspended until I get my sense of humor back
Post #9,093 by Fearless Freep 9/14/01 12:16:38 PM Reply	karmic penalty? I...um...didn't think Karma was a part of Catholic Theology, either... Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #9,208 by Ashton 9/14/01 8:42:18 PM Reply	Sure it is.. just different wording As ye sow, so shall ye reap Sometimes Christians remind me of the earlier Russians... Da tovarishi - Mother Russia invented the airplane.. and also theology - also thought :-\ufffd
Post #9,269 by kmself 9/15/01 8:21:51 AM Reply	Embrace & extend? -- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
Post #9,094 by Fearless Freep 9/14/01 12:18:10 PM Reply	karmic penalty? I...um...didn't think Karma was a part of Catholic Theology, either... Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"

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