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Post #89,579 by boxley 3/19/03 8:41:49 PM Reply	ya gotta think outside the box :-) Day one computers shift data. Flat files VSAM Hashed tables. The OS and network is just an entry to the data. Relational came a long with the OS and network using client server to connect keyboard to database. I see in 7 years instead of relational/object databases, distributed databases. Imagine an LDAP like object that from login to logout is inside a table. Applications are subtables. Data resides wherever the resources are allocated and the master table tracks links. OS consists of a mini kernel that talks and listens ip and does IO. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> To a lot of people in California hunting anything but the wild tofualope was equivelent to sacarificing babies to satan. S.M. Stirling
Post #89,589 by Silverlock 3/19/03 8:56:03 PM Reply	So when this happens will OO be considered "legacy"? The world is only a simple place to the simple.
Post #89,599 by boxley 3/19/03 9:07:56 PM Reply	what is an object? its a method of manipulating data all binaries, compilers etc are data sets and as such can be loaded into a "cell" inside a table. If you think about it under unix everything is a file. Where it is, is contained under the Inode table. On Dos it is in the FAT(file allocation table) In win, its the registry. We are 1/2 way there. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> To a lot of people in California hunting anything but the wild tofualope was equivelent to sacarificing babies to satan. S.M. Stirling
Post #89,601 by deSitter 3/19/03 9:12:15 PM Reply	It's something that can move around self-contained -drl
Post #89,697 by Ashton 3/20/03 5:50:34 AM Reply	It's a thingy..____you silly.
Post #89,710 by CRConrad 3/20/03 7:39:19 AM Reply	OK, Bryce: When did Bill give you his zIWT password to use?

Can an Open-Source Database Threaten MS, Oracle, and IBM? - (lincoln) - (67) - March 14, 2003, 10:52:19 AM EST

Nope. - (ChrisR) - (1) - March 14, 2003, 10:59:49 AM EST

Agree entirely. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 14, 2003, 08:43:37 PM EST

Yes - (drewk) - March 14, 2003, 11:45:15 AM EST

Free stripped down versions of other SQL databases - (orion) - March 14, 2003, 01:28:07 PM EST

Only at the Low End of the Spectrum... - (gdaustin) - (58) - March 14, 2003, 05:29:28 PM EST

Hmmm Glen... you looked at SAPDB? - (folkert) - (17) - March 14, 2003, 05:49:11 PM EST

Re: Hmmm Glen... you looked at SAPDB? - (gdaustin) - (2) - March 14, 2003, 05:56:00 PM EST

How expensive is the DB2 support? - (folkert) - (1) - March 14, 2003, 06:09:56 PM EST

Re: How expensive is the DB2 support? - (gdaustin) - March 15, 2003, 12:32:03 AM EST

Looked. Then look away - (broomberg) - (13) - March 14, 2003, 07:17:14 PM EST

Barry... Barry - (folkert) - (12) - March 14, 2003, 07:36:42 PM EST

Greg ... Greg ... Greg - (broomberg) - (11) - March 14, 2003, 07:47:03 PM EST

*chuckle* Boys, boys! - (imric) - March 14, 2003, 07:51:54 PM EST

BLAH...BLAH...BLAH... - (folkert) - (9) - March 14, 2003, 08:11:53 PM EST

Ahh, an actual debate - (broomberg) - (7) - March 14, 2003, 08:23:44 PM EST

Yes but you still missed it... - (folkert) - (6) - March 14, 2003, 08:44:27 PM EST

No, I see it - (broomberg) - (3) - March 14, 2003, 09:21:44 PM EST

Economy of SCALE... - (folkert) - (2) - March 14, 2003, 10:28:09 PM EST

This says it all - (broomberg) - (1) - March 14, 2003, 11:17:06 PM EST

If that is the only thing you read... - (folkert) - March 15, 2003, 09:03:08 AM EST

Where are you getting $120K for 3 16way machines? - (gdaustin) - (1) - March 15, 2003, 12:30:13 AM EST

He might be getting it - (broomberg) - March 15, 2003, 12:03:10 PM EST

Re: BLAH...BLAH...BLAH... - (deSitter) - March 14, 2003, 11:09:11 PM EST

Read _The Innovator's Dilemma_, please - (ben_tilly) - (38) - March 14, 2003, 07:06:41 PM EST

Don't agree - (broomberg) - (37) - March 14, 2003, 07:19:55 PM EST

We will see - (ben_tilly) - (36) - March 14, 2003, 10:34:39 PM EST

I agree with your time frame - (broomberg) - (35) - March 14, 2003, 11:13:20 PM EST

by 2010 I expect the network to be the database - (boxley) - (15) - March 14, 2003, 11:29:15 PM EST

Wow, I'm gone a few hours - (gdaustin) - March 15, 2003, 12:09:22 AM EST

Database Prognostication - (gdaustin) - March 15, 2003, 12:23:56 AM EST

In the year 2525.... -NT - (Silverlock) - (4) - March 15, 2003, 12:56:01 AM EST

One of my favorite songs that are never played anymore... -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - March 15, 2003, 09:04:08 AM EST

Beats me why it's not considered a "classic" -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - March 19, 2003, 08:53:58 PM EST

How sad - (deSitter) - March 19, 2003, 08:59:48 PM EST

It is. - (bepatient) - March 19, 2003, 09:26:15 PM EST

Re: by 2010 I expect the network to be the database - (tuberculosis) - (7) - March 19, 2003, 06:15:38 PM EST

Bwahahahahahaha. "Jetsons". *snort* SO true, SO true. -NT - (tseliot) - March 19, 2003, 07:03:59 PM EST

ya gotta think outside the box :-) - (boxley) - (5) - March 19, 2003, 08:41:49 PM EST

So when this happens will OO be considered "legacy"? -NT - (Silverlock) - (3) - March 19, 2003, 08:56:03 PM EST

what is an object? its a method of manipulating data - (boxley) - (2) - March 19, 2003, 09:07:56 PM EST

It's something that can move around self-contained -NT - (deSitter) - March 19, 2003, 09:12:15 PM EST

It's a thingy..____you silly. -NT - (Ashton) - March 20, 2003, 05:50:34 AM EST

OK, Bryce: When did Bill give you his zIWT password to use? -NT - (CRConrad) - March 20, 2003, 07:39:19 AM EST

I think that I have a reasonable bet... - (ben_tilly) - (18) - March 15, 2003, 12:21:18 PM EST

I don't trust "division" reports - (broomberg) - (17) - March 15, 2003, 01:13:20 PM EST

We have a problem then - (ben_tilly) - (16) - March 15, 2003, 01:31:10 PM EST

Cadiallacs vs. Hondas - (gdaustin) - (15) - March 15, 2003, 04:35:32 PM EST

BARRY... this is the BINGO. - (folkert) - (14) - March 15, 2003, 04:41:54 PM EST

But it is not what you said - (broomberg) - (13) - March 15, 2003, 05:16:24 PM EST

No *YOU* can't because you won;t risk that neck of yours... - (folkert) - (12) - March 15, 2003, 06:37:47 PM EST

Sigh - (broomberg) - (11) - March 15, 2003, 07:55:45 PM EST

Translation - (ben_tilly) - (7) - March 15, 2003, 10:10:11 PM EST

Huh? - (broomberg) - (6) - March 15, 2003, 10:52:12 PM EST

Explanation... - (ben_tilly) - (5) - March 15, 2003, 11:21:02 PM EST

I started on mainframes, too... - (gdaustin) - March 16, 2003, 12:10:37 AM EST

Um.... - (slugbug) - (3) - March 16, 2003, 05:13:56 PM EST

You know, use and like mainframes - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 16, 2003, 05:42:07 PM EST

Categorization is a dangerous thing - (slugbug) - (1) - March 16, 2003, 06:00:14 PM EST

*Exclusive* categorization is dangerous IMO - (ben_tilly) - March 16, 2003, 06:08:58 PM EST

Dont know your vendor but - (boxley) - (2) - March 15, 2003, 10:18:49 PM EST

Small vendor - (broomberg) - (1) - March 15, 2003, 10:40:12 PM EST

understood and sympathise -NT - (boxley) - March 15, 2003, 10:50:52 PM EST

PGSQL Replication is available - (tuberculosis) - March 19, 2003, 06:04:24 PM EST

I've been saying "five years" for about two years now - (kmself) - (3) - March 16, 2003, 12:13:50 AM EST

OT: "supplant" is a synonym for "replace". - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - March 15, 2003, 11:05:18 PM EST

What I want to know is... - (kmself) - (1) - March 16, 2003, 12:10:32 AM EST

Well, I used to confuse supplant with supplement. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - March 17, 2003, 01:54:24 AM EST

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