Post #88,667
3/16/03 9:43:30 AM
3/16/03 9:45:30 AM
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4 of 8 Debian Images downloaded
Does it matter I get the images from different FTP sites? I started with 1/2 at Rutgers last night, but it wouldn't let me do more than 2. So, I started up 3/4 from Colorado University and I downloaded 1/2/3/4 last night. This morning, I started 5/6 from Colorado, and 5 is almost done.
Then I'll get 7/8, after church.
So, I think I'll have Debian downloaded and burned this PM.
Question, how long does a Debian install take? RedHat was just an hour or two, and mostly it was set things up at the beginning and then switch the CD when it asks.
I'm expecting Debian to be some kind of extended script that may take hours? How many packages "auto-install"? I really don't want to manually feed 8,000 RPMs into the system, if I can help it.
I guess if I have to build my own custom kernel, at least it will be smaller and boot up faster, because I can leave out device driver support for devices I don't have (like SCSI).
Edited by gdaustin
March 16, 2003, 09:45:30 AM EST
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Post #88,669
3/16/03 10:10:39 AM
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Use the nonUS CD#1 to boot from and use the bf24 option...
But, you should also get a KNOPPIX ISO... [link|ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/\n|THIS PLACE] is a good place to get it from...
That will help you determine the Drivers(modules) you need to specify... or get loaded to make a working machine.
Q's on the Debian install are gladly answered. KNOPPIX should be straight forward...
You may find the Tulip modules are okay in the bf24 kernel...
After the first boot you'll be asked about the machine and what it should do. Then there are other things you need to take care of... it's just plain interesting... the first REAL install of Debian I did... I browsed the package list for ~2 days before finally deciding to proceed. But that is me.. :)
TTFN!!
b4k4^2
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Post #88,760
3/17/03 12:41:48 AM
3/17/03 12:43:26 AM
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Debian / Knoppix ? Either / Or?
Do I chose to install either Knoppix or Debian?
I guess I'm kinda lost here. I've downloaded the 8 images, have 7 burned and will return to Staples tomorrow to get another stack of CD-R's.
My Debian Disk 1 does boot the Linux box, but I quit the install early on because I still need to harvest my ipchains firewall config from the old box and probably a few other things, too.
I'm downloading Knoppix tonight from University of Illinois.
Based on the reading, it sounded like Knoppix is an "alternative OS" to Linux. So it's an either Debian or Knoppix decision?
Let me know.
Thanks,
Glen Austin
Edited by gdaustin
March 17, 2003, 12:42:33 AM EST
Edited by gdaustin
March 17, 2003, 12:43:26 AM EST
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Post #88,784
3/17/03 7:56:44 AM
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KNOPPIX... is
a Debian Based Distro of Linux... except you run it from the CDROM...
You can install it to the HD as well...
Use KNOPPIX to detect your hardware...
Use Debian, and then use [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=74573|This IPTABLES SCRIPT]... it works very well... Very well indeed.
b4k4^2
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These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints. |
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Post #89,404
3/19/03 10:22:17 AM
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Loaded Knoppix on my Linux box last night....
From the CDROM.
I wrote down all the "auto-identified" devices on the back of an envelope. I was surprised how few there really were.
I was expecting layer upon layer of drivers (kind of like Windows), but it identified just enough to put on the back of an envelope.
The list appears to be almost identical to the one I originally used to install RedHat, but I can't remember how long ago that was. Was that RH 5.1? or 6.0?
At some point RH autodetected everything, and Linux installation got a lot easier.
One surprise was that Knoppix did not detect my parallel port Zip drive. But, to be fair, I dont' thing RedHat did, either. To get it to work, I usually have to insmod on a ppa module.
I guess with my "envelope" list, I'll proceed with installing Debian tonight.
Glen Austin
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Post #89,446
3/19/03 12:43:10 PM
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For your system information, use...
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