Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now?

Post #8,836 by addison 9/13/01 9:43:44 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? Is there a UN sanctioned NO FLY ZONE within Iraq? No. But there's one decided by US, over Iraq's sovereign airspace. Bullshit. You're lying. And I've already told you why. Did UN sanctioned any attacks on Yugoslavia? No. But there's one decided by NATO, spearheaded by the US. I've asked you before - which civilians should have been protected? If you're going to troll, you need to do lots better. Addison
Post #8,848 by TTC 9/13/01 10:08:21 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? > Is there a UN sanctioned NO FLY ZONE within Iraq? No. But there's one decided by US, over Iraq's sovereign airspace. > > Bullshit. You're lying. > > And I've already told you why. I've been unable to find any UN sanctioned NO FLY ZONE info. Perhaps you can help me out. > Did UN sanctioned any attacks on Yugoslavia? No. But there's one decided by NATO, spearheaded by the US. > > I've asked you before - which civilians should have been protected? > You tell me... which side do you choose to believe/help... by WHAT criteria? [link\|http://slate.msn.com/diary/01-09-10/diary.asp?imsg=2\|http://slate.msn.co...y.asp?imsg=2] [link\|http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/keller10.html\|http://www.lewrockw...eller10.html] [link\|http://www.salonmag.com/news/feature/2001/09/12/blowback/index.html\|http://www.salonmag...k/index.html] > If you're going to troll, you need to do lots better. If I were trying to JUSTIFY the actions, I would try to do better. I'm NOT. I'm pointing out the obvious, the "WHY" that many still refuse to acknowledge.
Post #8,854 by addison 9/13/01 10:23:17 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? I've been unable to find any UN sanctioned NO FLY ZONE info. Perhaps you can help me out. Unlikely. You're here to troll. What were the condititions that Iraq agreed to for cessation of the UN actions against them? You tell me... which side do you choose to believe/help... by WHAT criteria? You didn't answer my question. Not surprising. Because the heart of your argument is misdirection. I've asked you before - which civilians should have been protected? In Yugoslavia and Iraq, what civilians should have been protected, and where were civilians targetted and by who? Addison
Post #8,858 by TTC 9/13/01 10:40:07 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? > You tell me... which side do you choose to believe/help... by WHAT criteria? > > You didn't answer my question. Not surprising. Because the heart of your argument is misdirection. > > I've asked you before - which civilians should have been protected? > > In Yugoslavia and Iraq, what civilians should have been protected, and where were civilians targetted and by who? [link\|http://slate.msn.com/diary/01-09-10/diary.asp?imsg=2\|http://slate.msn.co...y.asp?imsg=2] The attacks are sad, he said, a tragedy. But then he got to the heart of the matter, not only for him but for many Macedonians who resent what they regard as American support for ethnic Albanian rebels. "Now you have experienced what terrorism is like," Ivo said. "Now you can understand what terrorism does, and you should do something about it, especially in Macedonia. You should condemn the Albanians. It's clear you're helping them. Even a child knows that." His friends nodded their heads in agreement. The rebels are terrorists, they believe, killing civilians and policemen, yet America coddles them, even supplying them with weapons (a popular belief). Maybe, the students added, the assaults on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon will serve as a wake-up call. "Terrorists have never attacked America with this much devastation," Ivo noted. "America now should see what terrorism is really about and stop it everywhere." The feelings of Ivo and his friends are not unusual. There is no satisfaction in Skopje about the attacks on America\ufffdnone of the grotesque spectacles, seen on television, of Palestinians and Libyans celebrating the attacks. The expressions of condolence here are sincere, but there is, underneath it all, a strong belief that America has imposed its will on the Balkans in ways that are neither wise nor fair and that America should not be surprised that its actions overseas have brought deadly results to the homeland. The same belief exists in Serbia, which experienced a 78-day U.S.-led bombing campaign in 1999, and it exists among nationalists in Croatia who resent U.S. pressure to extradite war criminals to the Hague. The sourness surfaces not just in the talk of ordinary citizens but in media commentaries, too. All you need to do is pick up today's issue of New Macedonia, a pro-government paper. "The attempt by western countries to treat Albanian terrorists as human rights fighters gave them a clear field for seven months of terror against Macedonians," the main commentary states. "The difference between yesterday's attacks on the United States and the attacks of Albanian terrorists in Macedonia is just in the capacity and power of their action." In other words, Now you know how we feel. Can you tell with CERTAINTY that the Albanian were indeed the victims? Or do you simply dismissed all the abv as official Yugoslavia's propoganda? If you still want to insist that I'm trolling, so be it.
Post #8,860 by addison 9/13/01 10:42:45 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? [link\|http://slate.msn.com/diary/01-09-10/diary.asp?imsg=2\|http://slate.msn.co...y.asp?imsg=2] Which has WHAT to do with the BOMBING OF YUGOSLAVIA? Which is what you were talking about. But you won't stay on topic... which is an indication that yep, you're here to troll. Addison
Post #8,863 by TTC 9/13/01 10:51:58 AM Reply	Re: Where the Hell is the U.N. right now? > [link\|http://slate.msn.com/diary/01-09-10/diary.asp?imsg=2\|http://slate.msn.co...y.asp?imsg=2] > > Which has WHAT to do with the BOMBING OF YUGOSLAVIA? > > Which is what you were talking about. > > But you won't stay on topic... which is an indication that yep, you're here to troll. > > Addison > If you don't know what MACEDONIA has to do with the bombing of Yugoslavia, what are you basing your "beliefs" that the bombing of Yugoslavia was justified? I rest my case.
Post #8,866 by addison 9/13/01 10:57:48 AM Reply	Better hold that case. If you don't know what MACEDONIA has to do with the bombing of Yugoslavia, what are you basing your "beliefs" that the bombing of Yugoslavia was justified? You were blathering that the bombing of yugoslavia, and the harming of civilians, was "no different" than the WTC bombing. Now you're talking about something else. The only thing you've stayed constant on was that the US is bad, evil, and we suck. I guess you would have liked being under Japanese Suzieranity much better. Stupid us. No, idiot, you've got a looong way to go to lecture me. Addison
Post #8,917 by Steven A S 9/13/01 2:25:09 PM Reply	Two words: "Essential Harvest" Look them up. In fact I will for you: [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/world/europe/easterneurope/macedonia/\|Washington Post] This is a NATO sponsored mission, but the US is part of it. The interview you quoted said >The rebels are terrorists, they believe, killing civilians and policemen, yet >America coddles them, even supplying them with weapons (a popular belief). Of course you believe it because you want to believe the worst of the US, but the "Essential Harvest" mission is all about 1. taking weapons AWAY from the rebels 2. Giving rights back to them That is official information, not just the word on the street! ~~~)-Steven----

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