Post #88,106
3/13/03 3:56:58 PM
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3 PM Update
Meeting was rescheduled to 9 AM Monday morning, 3/17/2003.
So I'm still alive through the weekend.
lincoln
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Post #88,108
3/13/03 3:59:09 PM
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Re: 3 PM Update
Didn't you watch "National Geographic Explorer's 'Office Space'"? No one ever gets canned on Monday. So you're good 'till next Friday.
Maybe you're getting promoted.
-drl
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Post #88,118
3/13/03 4:25:16 PM
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You forgot your <SARCASM> tag
You meant that as an attempt at humor, right?
lincoln
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Post #88,126
3/13/03 4:30:57 PM
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No
-drl
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Post #88,329
3/14/03 11:13:49 AM
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You gotta be kidding, right?
After what they've said and done, an iceberg has a better chance of leaving Antartica and reaching the equator totally intact than I do of "getting a promotion".
And nobody has ever been laid off on a Monday? Don't you read the papers?
lincoln
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Post #88,338
3/14/03 11:26:35 AM
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He might be exaggerating a bit...
...but the truth is, companies are less likely to lay people off on a Monday for specifically that reason. I asked my HR director. :)
Nice woman. Used to work for Sierra Online as their HR director, and got out when things REALLY started to go down the tubes.
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Post #88,375
3/14/03 1:44:29 PM
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Re: He might be exaggerating a bit...
I was let go from my last job on Nov 4th, 2002, a Monday. I guess they didn't want me earning another work week and just let me go on Monday instead of Friday. But then it was a small business barely making a profit anyway, so they do things differently than the big businesses out there.
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Post #88,340
3/14/03 11:29:39 AM
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Reference is to the movie 'Office Space'
where everyone (but the main character) gets canned on Friday - "statistically speaking it's safer to fire someone on Friday". The main character stops caring about his job - stops coming to work - and gets a promotion.
Saw Office Space for the first time this last weekend. Funny movie because it's soooo damned true for a lot of places where I've worked. My son does a very good imitation of Milton which cracks me up. :-)
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Post #88,341
3/14/03 11:31:38 AM
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Re: Reference is to the movie 'Office Space'
I've never had anything unexpectedly terminate on a non-Friday.
The black hour is Friday after lunch.
-drl
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Post #88,366
3/14/03 1:23:52 PM
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Counter-example
I was laid off on a Monday at 11AM at my previous job.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #88,405
3/14/03 5:52:31 PM
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Then you've missed out
Last month, we had a surprise mass layoff on a Wednesday morning. Unsurprisingly, morale is still in the toilet and I've been working on my resume.
Oh, and they've started a group in India. And have I mentioned our CEO is making a killing while the company is losing money? I just can't image why people at work are so cynical right now.
David "LordBeatnik"
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Post #88,409
3/14/03 6:05:59 PM
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Hrm. Sounds like they're forgetting.
What with the economy in the shitter, They are getting bolder about laying people off willy-nilly, instead of waiting until Friday.
Waiting for the latest round of postals...
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Post #88,463
3/14/03 10:18:24 PM
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Or they're just stupid
What was even more surprising was timing and the selection of people. They axed several people who's skills cannot easily be replaced. And they have no real plan on how to cover for many of the losses. It seems like upper management just decreed "thou shalt remove X% of the workforce by this deadline" without any careful thought as to the consequences.
Ah well, if there are bugs in a couples pieces of code, they've screwed themselves by firing the only people who could fix it in a short period of time. Have I mentioned I love upper management?
David "LordBeatnik"
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Post #88,376
3/14/03 1:46:35 PM
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Milton
I've been told that I am sort of a Milton like character. I get moved around to smaller desks, etc; but, I never had been let go and kept on to work for no paycheck.
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Post #88,113
3/13/03 4:08:00 PM
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They needed more time to lock you out
Feel free to take that as black humor. I hope that it is.
===
Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #88,123
3/13/03 4:29:38 PM
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Won't logoff when I go home Friday
and I won't turn the PC off. Supposedly, I can dial in through a secure website, use the Citrix client installed on the home PC and login to the network, then find my cubicle desktop unit and "see" it.
Will try it on Sunday night.
lincoln
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Post #88,128
3/13/03 4:36:57 PM
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Take it easy
I strongly discourage this plan.
-drl
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Post #88,327
3/14/03 11:11:55 AM
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Why?
lincoln
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Post #88,328
3/14/03 11:13:11 AM
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Let Whatever Come
..and be stoic about it. One participates with his own reality - think up a good one for yourself.
You'll know what you'll know on Monday.
-drl
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Post #88,330
3/14/03 11:15:32 AM
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And with a little advance warning
I can make sure that there is nothing that can be misconstrued and used against me left on their PC on the desk that I am privileged to sit at before that happens.
lincoln
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Post #88,589
3/15/03 7:47:24 PM
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Or it will look like you were "trying something"...
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #88,838
3/17/03 2:44:23 PM
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I didn't "try something"... last night
Cause I was just tto tired from unpacking and working around the house all weekend.
Lawn maintenance can be such fun when you buy a house that was empty for over a year.
lincoln
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Post #88,622
3/15/03 10:58:14 PM
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Advance notice, misconstrued evidence
Knowing which way the wind's blowing can be useful. I've done\r\nsimilarly before. \r\n\r\n With regards to ensuring there's nothing on your system which could\r\nbe "misconstrued" -- the time to take care of that was before this. In\r\ngeneral, if you suspect your job's on the line (and face it, these days,\r\nit just plain is), then keep your systems clean. If you need personal\r\nservices from the office, access them remotely, on your own system (a\r\nsmall computer can [link|http://www.cappuccinopc.com/|fit in a\r\npocket], handheld devices can also be useful, or a laptop. \r\n\r\n If you think there might be a time at which it wouldn't be a good\r\nthing to have on your employer's hard drive, then right now is\r\nan excellent time to remove it. \r\n --\r\n
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Post #88,629
3/15/03 11:25:17 PM
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personal email to offsite
if you get personal at the office ensure it is innocuous. Delete without reading if it appears racy and complain right away. Be careful of what sites you visit while making it clear in hiring interviews that you require unlimited net access even to odd sites because hackers and phreekers also share porn. (if security is anywhere near your job title.) buncha others but too late. Always remember that the box at work is theirs and every file and link is open to their scrutiny. Be cleanup aware. Fdisk doesnt cureall you need to wipe stuff so dont let it on your work harddrive ever. Alternatively on a work box save some disk space for a nix partition, when the writing is on the wall delete the partition and recreate 3 new ones and format them. With the INODE table cacked it is hard to recreate files. What was wally's favorite quote? can I have my ones and zeros back?
thanx,
bill
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Post #88,840
3/17/03 2:48:09 PM
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I don't know what you mean
by "personal services".
While I can clean the IE cache, delete the "Favorites" folder, etc., I know from painful reality 2 years ago that it's the firewall logs that they have in hand already. I'm talking about utility programs that I've written to pull test data from production to our test environments or to my local HD.
But with this being Texas, they can toss me out for having burgundy colored shoes with navy blue pants.
lincoln
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Post #88,843
3/17/03 2:54:41 PM
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This keeps getting better and better.........
Last week they rescheduled the meeting from Thursday morning to Thursday afternoon. They cancelled that and scheduled it for this morning at 9 AM. I come in, check the calendar and see that it was changed to 2 PM. Now I just received an email notice that it was pushed back from 2 to 3 PM.
Gee-whiz, people; if you're gonna shitcan me, just do it, okay?
lincoln
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Post #88,895
3/17/03 6:34:24 PM
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The Doomsday Clock had the snooze button hit a few times...
it looks like they want to get everyone into the meeting that is associated with the sh*tcanning. The more they wait, the more your doom is delayed. Also it may not be you, but someone else.
When I got let go it wasn't a meeting, it was the HR lady calling me into her office, then the next job was the President calling me into his office with the HR lady. Usually it doesn't take a big meeting to fire just one person, but several, it might take a meeting.
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Post #88,897
3/17/03 6:35:51 PM
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Well??? Don't keep us in suspense!!!
Spit it out already!!!
Did you get something?
b4k4^2
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