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Post #77,897
by tseliot
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1/29/03 4:12:16 PM
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New Depends upon your definition of oath
I use "oath" to mean invocation of a higher power (i.e. patron), usually to imply sanctions if the expressed contract is broken. "I believe X to be true," doesn't often include such an oath. "I believe in person X" might, especially if they are seen as that higher power. *Long* before Kant or even Linnaeus' assertions about taxonomy, common wisdom assumed a thing's name was coterminous with the thing itself, hence the language about taking action "in the name of" someone else. Or take the verses about "I was baptized by Paul, Apollos", etc, concerning which Paul has to take pains to make clear that such intermediaries are not going to be a part of this new covenant.
Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance -
Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation.
BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #77,903
by boxley
1/29/03 4:22:00 PM
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New same definition as I use, thanx
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

"The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted"
Murray Rothbard
     postulated, faith divorced from good works has no value - (boxley) - (20) - Jan. 27, 2003, 08:41:20 PM EST
         ie "talk is cheap" ? -NT - (Ashton) - (5) - Jan. 27, 2003, 08:58:43 PM EST
             We have a winner! -NT - (Brandioch) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2003, 09:42:20 PM EST
                 "I'm a Mog! Half man, half dog -- I'm my own best friend!" -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 27, 2003, 11:14:40 PM EST
             And gibberish is cheaper? - (marlowe) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2003, 11:16:24 AM EST
                 Babbling incoherence is GPL -NT - (deSitter) - Jan. 28, 2003, 11:19:17 AM EST
                 Incorrect. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 28, 2003, 11:26:54 AM EST
         so much for well thought out reasonable debate - (boxley) - Jan. 27, 2003, 11:20:39 PM EST
         The contrary is true as well - (tangaroa) - Jan. 27, 2003, 11:43:28 PM EST
         Sounds like James. - (tseliot) - (9) - Jan. 27, 2003, 11:43:42 PM EST
             this is the discussion I had hoped to provoke - (boxley) - (7) - Jan. 28, 2003, 12:01:25 AM EST
                 Good is Anonymous - (deSitter) - Jan. 28, 2003, 12:12:31 AM EST
                 From our modern POV perhaps. - (tseliot) - Jan. 28, 2003, 04:08:47 PM EST
                 Some thoughts on "belief" et al. - (static) - (4) - Jan. 29, 2003, 01:51:59 AM EST
                     Yes, although the NT points out change - (tseliot) - (3) - Jan. 29, 2003, 01:44:29 PM EST
                         Isnt I believe an act of oath taking? -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 01:50:41 PM EST
                             Depends upon your definition of oath - (tseliot) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:12:16 PM EST
                                 same definition as I use, thanx -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:22:00 PM EST
             Not so different from - - (Ashton) - Jan. 28, 2003, 12:26:54 AM EST
         Jesus would say - (deSitter) - Jan. 27, 2003, 11:44:54 PM EST
         Can't be done - (mhuber) - April 29, 2003, 04:16:53 PM EDT

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