Re: Oh great, here comes the one-man-band.

Post #77,888 by rickmoen 1/29/03 3:43:36 PM Reply	Re: Oh great, here comes the one-man-band. tseliot wrote: Nobody blinks an eye because those "other areas" are managed, as Andrew said, in what have become standard, one might say to the point of being intuitive, ways. To you, managed. To me, pretty broken. Fortunately, neither of us needs to be especially concerned about the other's view, right? Ummm..we were talking about minimizing risk. Can you not connect the dots between risk and damage? You're either being very vague, changing the subject, or both. Social tip: if you find the opinion of your chosen adversary laughable, chance are you've misunderstood his opinion. Or maybe I understand his opinion, think he's trying to troll a technical audience by deliberately dangling purblind arguments in front of it, and find the practice tiresome. The issue which Andrew brought up, before he was so rudely interrupted, is that support lifetimes are getting shorter. Go to linuxcare's website and look around. They don't want to support anything other than the current versions any more than the vendors themselves do. Well, when the "versions" in question are of a freely redistributable operating system that's available for the cost of duplication, the relevance of this point is unclear. Andrew tried to muddy this obvious point by mixing in RHAS, but that is not relevant. My point hinged more on your unbelievable assertion that, if a business doesn't perceive the world the way you do, they should wither and die. I believe what I said was that if a business doesn't perceive the world the way it is, that they probably will wither and die. Such as by refusing to avail themselves of a la carte support when it's the obvious choice, because, well, they never have before and they just don't want to. But please don't let me stop you from constructing straw men and knocking them down at great length. It could be quite entertaining. Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
Post #77,906 by tseliot 1/29/03 4:37:28 PM Reply	Will, should, doesn't matter. Now I'm tired of talking to you. You assume too much, belittle opposing views too often, couch it all in language most people read as sarcasm and hyperbole, then try to pass it off as literal when challenged. You either do this on purpose, in which case piss off, or you honestly don't realize it, in which case: this conversation is not the place to address it further; you'll only confuse the original conversation with the meta-discussion. Have fun. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #77,923 by rickmoen 1/29/03 5:22:10 PM Reply	Re: Will, should, doesn't matter. tseliot wrote: Now I'm tired of talking to you. So, let me get this straight: You come screaming belligerently into the thread to attribute to me (and argue with) views I don't hold and never stated, and then, when I object to that, pronounce that I'm not worth your time? Well, OK. I wish you'd decided that before going out of your way to waste my time, but I'll take small gains any way they're offered. 'Bye. Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
Post #77,934 by tseliot 1/29/03 6:22:28 PM Reply	Small gain, indeed. So, let me get this straight: You come screaming belligerently into the thread to attribute to me (and argue with) views I don't hold and never stated, and then, when I object to that, pronounce that I'm not worth your time? You are not worth my time. That's not because you object to misunderstanding, but because you actively work to keep yourself from alleviating it. You state your views and then assume any communication difficulties are Someone Else's Problem. From your first post in this thread: ...you're trolling...selective blindnesses...magnificently erroneous..."evolution in action"...anonymous teenage flamers...either missing, or are pretending to miss...smarter firms, and like that. Belligerent? Pot. Kettle. Black. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #77,974 by rickmoen 1/29/03 9:17:50 PM Reply	Re: Small gain, indeed. tseliot wrote: You are not worth my time. That's not because you object to misunderstanding, but because you actively work to keep yourself from alleviating it. You state your views and then assume any communication difficulties are Someone Else's Problem. You seriously claim not to have made wildly erroneous claims about what views I've stated in preceding posts? Well, then we're done. Again: 'Bye! Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
Post #78,281 by tseliot 1/31/03 12:22:12 AM Reply	Apology: Folks (everyone), I was wrong here. I'm sorry for taking what should have been a simple conversation and pissing all over the forum. Please forgive me. Rick, I admit I misinterpreted your statement(s). I thought I admitted that in my last post; sorry if it wasn't clear. It was not on purpose. Hope you can believe that, although given your last post I don't think you do. I still disagree with you. I don't like it when you call my friends trolls because you disagree with them. I don't like it when you throw in loaded descriptors like "magnificently erroneous". But I'll do my best to understand your point better next time. Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #78,282 by rickmoen 1/31/03 12:25:31 AM Reply	Think nothing of it. I regret any part I had in causing this problem. Don't worry about your part in it, but the good gesture is much appreciated. Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.

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